04 PI crate motor swap in 97 GT - Lone Star Stangs

97-Blk_GT · 03-13-2008, 03:51 PM

I recently bought a 97 GT/auto with a bad motor..(not sure what is wrong with it)...it has been sitting for 3 yrs...so I ordered a 04 PI crate stock crate motor...is there anyone or a website that will tell me what will have to be changed out to make the swap easier..like I know the thermo housing needs to be swapped out, cuz the new one will put the hose right in sight of where my old coil pack need to go..and a few other small things..Im new to the mustang scene and would like to get the upper hand when I do the swap..thanks for any help...

Magnapack97 · 03-13-2008, 03:59 PM

shoulda bought a used termie motor. This might help. NPI to PI engine swap how to guide - Mustang Forums at StangNet

97-Blk_GT · 03-13-2008, 04:04 PM

whats a termie motor

semperfimrn1 · 03-13-2008, 04:49 PM

motor that comes on the 03-04 COBRAS... supercharged

blueink · 03-13-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 97-Blk_GT

whats a termie motor

32 vavle 4.6 engine which is stock on cobras, as apposed to the 16 valve GT entine. I dont know man, its hard to say which would have been a better decision. Its really up to you, personally I would have done the same as you did, UNLESS a 32 valve engine was available for the same price, AND I KNEW the precise condition of that engine. Especially termie motors and the abuse it might have been put through. So for peace of mind, security, $$$COST and daily driving, I would have gone with crate Gt 4.6 as well. If your concerned with HP Potential, than the termie engine, would have been way better.

97-Blk_GT · 03-13-2008, 04:58 PM

no..I really jus wanted reliability...weekend car..and an easy swap..bought the motor for $3400 shipped..everything is new..it is an end of the production run motor..Im having the auto tranny rebuilt..since it was sittin for 3 yrs..and ordering parts for it..long tubes and the usual bolt ons..not tryin to be the fastest..jus quick and working on the looks..like I said..it sat in some apts. parking for 3 yrs...so it needs some TLC..

seco · 03-13-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 97-Blk_GT

no..I really jus wanted reliability...weekend car..and an easy swap..bought the motor for $3400 shipped..everything is new..it is an end of the production run motor..Im having the auto tranny rebuilt..since it was sittin for 3 yrs..and ordering parts for it..long tubes and the usual bolt ons..not tryin to be the fastest..jus quick and working on the looks..like I said..it sat in some apts. parking for 3 yrs...so it needs some TLC..

share the same point of view regarding reliability ... hope everything works out with your swap

blueink · 03-13-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 97-Blk_GT

no..I really jus wanted reliability...weekend car..and an easy swap..bought the motor for $3400 shipped..everything is new..it is an end of the production run motor..Im having the auto tranny rebuilt..since it was sittin for 3 yrs..and ordering parts for it..long tubes and the usual bolt ons..not tryin to be the fastest..jus quick and working on the looks..like I said..it sat in some apts. parking for 3 yrs...so it needs some TLC..

yup wise choice! I would have done the same! were u get it from? try to get a 5sp in it man!

97-Blk_GT · 03-13-2008, 05:53 PM

I got it off of ebay and out of arlington...Im not a 5 spd person..prolly driven a stick like 4 times in my life..haha...crazy..huh...Im no good...I like to eat a burger and drive..haha

96greengt · 03-15-2008, 10:23 PM

You'll need to swap a few parts over to make the 04 compatible with the 97.

The timing cover will need to be reused, all the accessories transfer over, the t-stat neck is the same for all years of a 2V. You will basically keep everything from the stock motor and just transfer it over. You'll have to transfer the fuel rails, coil packs, plug wires, egr tube, and most everything else is ok.

I did a 2000 engine in mine which replaced a 96 motor

97-Blk_GT · 03-15-2008, 11:54 PM

Im gonna have to switch stat housings...the 04 one puts the hose coming right over where I need to fab up a bracket to keep my coil packs..the motor has all new accessories..alternator & pwr steering already..so wont have to switch the timing housing..I am gonna put a 97 stat housing to reposition the hose outlet..mine on the motor in the car is crusty..haha...thanks for all the input..

96greengt · 03-16-2008, 12:02 AM

I have a housing from a 96 if you need one, good shape still and I can ship it if you need it. The belt routing is different too from a 97 to an 04.

Stang6uy · 03-16-2008, 09:34 AM

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should have bought this one for 1800 it's the same thing only lighter cause it's an aluminum block......

97-Blk_GT · 03-18-2008, 12:46 AM

weird thing happened to me today...I decided to try and start my stang again..the damn thing fired right up...which was pretty good for sittin for 3 yrs...I got it started once before..but ran like busted ass...today..fired right up and purred like a kitten...other than a lil valve chatter around 3-4K...prolly due to 3 yr old gas...weird though..I was told the motor was bad...supposed to have a bad cylinder per a Ford Dealership....no check engine light...sorry for ramblin..jus thought I would tell yas...

1mean4.SIK · 03-25-2008, 07:28 PM

i think your going to need to keep your old coil packs and splice the wires to adapt to your wiring harness, it should bolt on only problems are basically the wiring harness.

03-13-2008, 03:51 PM	#1
97-Blk_GT Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Angleton, Tx Posts: 21	04 PI crate motor swap in 97 GT I recently bought a 97 GT/auto with a bad motor..(not sure what is wrong with it)...it has been sitting for 3 yrs...so I ordered a 04 PI crate stock crate motor...is there anyone or a website that will tell me what will have to be changed out to make the swap easier..like I know the thermo housing needs to be swapped out, cuz the new one will put the hose right in sight of where my old coil pack need to go..and a few other small things..Im new to the mustang scene and would like to get the upper hand when I do the swap..thanks for any help...

03-13-2008, 03:59 PM	#2
Magnapack97 You will never get this Join Date: May 2007 Location: Abilene, TX Posts: 390	shoulda bought a used termie motor. This might help. NPI to PI engine swap how to guide - Mustang Forums at StangNet __________________ '97 GT www.AbileneMustangs.net

03-13-2008, 04:49 PM	#4
semperfimrn1 Do The Stanky Leg! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: austin tx Posts: 2,182	motor that comes on the 03-04 COBRAS... supercharged __________________

03-15-2008, 10:23 PM	#10
96greengt LOL @ your mom Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.E. SA Posts: 8,745	You'll need to swap a few parts over to make the 04 compatible with the 97. The timing cover will need to be reused, all the accessories transfer over, the t-stat neck is the same for all years of a 2V. You will basically keep everything from the stock motor and just transfer it over. You'll have to transfer the fuel rails, coil packs, plug wires, egr tube, and most everything else is ok. I did a 2000 engine in mine which replaced a 96 motor __________________ Built 00 Windsor engine, .20 over, 11.6:1cr, fully ported heads, Hardballer intake w/cooling mod, Scat rods, Probe pistons, Cobra crank, tri-metal Clevite race bearings, VT Stage 2 N/A cams, adjustable cam gears, Canton windage tray, MMR oil pump, Cobra pick up, 75MM Accufab t-body, Dragon plenum, JLT CAI, 24# injectors, Bassani mid lengths, mufflers & O/R X,255lph fuel pump, BBK FPR, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, AJE K-member, ARP hardware everywhere, X-Cal SCT custom tuned, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, polygraphite motor mounts, over 300+ RWHP & 320+ TQ

03-16-2008, 12:02 AM	#12
96greengt LOL @ your mom Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.E. SA Posts: 8,745	I have a housing from a 96 if you need one, good shape still and I can ship it if you need it. The belt routing is different too from a 97 to an 04. __________________ Built 00 Windsor engine, .20 over, 11.6:1cr, fully ported heads, Hardballer intake w/cooling mod, Scat rods, Probe pistons, Cobra crank, tri-metal Clevite race bearings, VT Stage 2 N/A cams, adjustable cam gears, Canton windage tray, MMR oil pump, Cobra pick up, 75MM Accufab t-body, Dragon plenum, JLT CAI, 24# injectors, Bassani mid lengths, mufflers & O/R X,255lph fuel pump, BBK FPR, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, AJE K-member, ARP hardware everywhere, X-Cal SCT custom tuned, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, polygraphite motor mounts, over 300+ RWHP & 320+ TQ

03-13-2008, 04:04 PM	#3
97-Blk_GT Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Angleton, Tx Posts: 21	whats a termie motor

03-13-2008, 04:58 PM	#6
97-Blk_GT Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Angleton, Tx Posts: 21	no..I really jus wanted reliability...weekend car..and an easy swap..bought the motor for $3400 shipped..everything is new..it is an end of the production run motor..Im having the auto tranny rebuilt..since it was sittin for 3 yrs..and ordering parts for it..long tubes and the usual bolt ons..not tryin to be the fastest..jus quick and working on the looks..like I said..it sat in some apts. parking for 3 yrs...so it needs some TLC..

03-13-2008, 05:53 PM	#9
97-Blk_GT Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Angleton, Tx Posts: 21	I got it off of ebay and out of arlington...Im not a 5 spd person..prolly driven a stick like 4 times in my life..haha...crazy..huh...Im no good...I like to eat a burger and drive..haha

03-15-2008, 11:54 PM	#11
97-Blk_GT Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Angleton, Tx Posts: 21	Im gonna have to switch stat housings...the 04 one puts the hose coming right over where I need to fab up a bracket to keep my coil packs..the motor has all new accessories..alternator & pwr steering already..so wont have to switch the timing housing..I am gonna put a 97 stat housing to reposition the hose outlet..mine on the motor in the car is crusty..haha...thanks for all the input..

03-16-2008, 09:34 AM	#13
Stang6uy Humble Pie (18-1) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 1,537	New & Used Engines should have bought this one for 1800 it's the same thing only lighter cause it's an aluminum block...... __________________ 1998 yellow gt/procharger-sold 1983 GLX Blu-sold 1989 Blk coupe-sold 1990 Blu hatch-crushed 1993 white vert-sold 1985 gt hatch white-sold 1990 Blk coupe-sold 1990 Blk coupe-sold 1990 red hatch-sold 1995 yellow gt-sold 1990 white coupe/nitrous injected-sold 1996 Blk gt-sold 2000 Blk gt- gave to brother 1990 Lincoln LSC-sold stangless for now...

03-18-2008, 12:46 AM	#14
97-Blk_GT Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Angleton, Tx Posts: 21	weird thing happened to me today...I decided to try and start my stang again..the damn thing fired right up...which was pretty good for sittin for 3 yrs...I got it started once before..but ran like busted ass...today..fired right up and purred like a kitten...other than a lil valve chatter around 3-4K...prolly due to 3 yr old gas...weird though..I was told the motor was bad...supposed to have a bad cylinder per a Ford Dealership....no check engine light...sorry for ramblin..jus thought I would tell yas...

03-25-2008, 07:28 PM	#15
1mean4.SIK Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS Posts: 1,252	i think your going to need to keep your old coil packs and splice the wires to adapt to your wiring harness, it should bolt on only problems are basically the wiring harness. __________________

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