99-04 2 valve COP

seco · 07-23-2008, 07:18 PM

looking into buying some coil on plugs for the two valve.
any suggestions on which brand to go with?

4.6stanger · 07-23-2008, 08:03 PM

motorcraft, or go aftermarket like im plannin to do plus they're cheaper... MSD!

96greengt · 07-24-2008, 09:28 PM

Unless you have some high compression, stock units will do just fine, anything above stock with no compression is a waste of money.
Ford actually had it right with ignition after the 5.0 died.

H0SS302 · 07-24-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 96greengt

Unless you have some high compression, stock units will do just fine, anything above stock with no compression is a waste of money.
Ford actually had it right with ignition after the 5.0 died.

+1
companies will peddle COPS like they give you an assload of power... the fact of the matter is if your not pushing some substantial power, or like chody said high compression.. your wasting your 500 bucks.

Bigdrumma22 · 07-24-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by H0SS302

+1
companies will peddle COPS like they give you an assload of power... the fact of the matter is if your not pushing some substantial power, or like chody said high compression.. your wasting your 500 bucks.

+2... Yups... I was gonna buy MSD's but I took Jody's word on it since he's "mod man" and skipped it. I installed the MSD 6AL ignition box on my 84' chevy truck a few years ago and didn't notice a significant difference at all, so this is further reason I chose not to do it. Not saying MSD is bad, just probably not worth it unless it's built or custom.

96greengt · 07-25-2008, 07:28 AM

Mine is built and custom and compression and I have stock coil packs !!

Bigdrumma22 · 07-25-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 96greengt

Mine is built and custom and compression and I have stock coil packs !!

That's cuz that engine knew if it didn't work right, after put all that time and money into it, you would kick it to the curb and get a new engine.

seco · 07-25-2008, 12:10 PM

whether they are stock motorcrafts or aftermarkets - I'd like to go with the cheaper$ ones - you mentioned MSD ? i didn't think those were any cheaper than oem's.

Bigdrumma22 · 07-25-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by seco

whether they are stock motorcrafts or aftermarkets - I'd like to go with the cheaper$ ones - you mentioned MSD ? i didn't think those were any cheaper than oem's.

You can get a set of MSD's for like $370-400 a set. The motorcrafts are like $45-50/each. GMS are like $300 a set. Accel makes some too, can't remember how much they are. Just go with whatever fits your budget.

aguilarf · 07-25-2008, 12:41 PM

When I had to replace mine, I went with the Summit brand ones. Cheaper than OEM, at 34.95 a piece. Haven't had any problems with them so far.

I have heard GMS is not worth the price, they have had issues with quality control. But they may have gotten better by now.

Ignition Coils - summitracing.com

Bigdrumma22 · 07-25-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aguilarf

When I had to replace mine, I went with the Summit brand ones. Cheaper than OEM, at 34.95 a piece. Haven't had any problems with them so far.

I have heard GMS is not worth the price, they have had issues with quality control. But they may have gotten better by now.

Ignition Coils - summitracing.com

Yeah, I wouldn't buy GMS with all the stuff I've heard about them, just listing options. Jegs also sells their own brand for close to the same price as summit.

**AdRock** · 07-25-2008, 05:49 PM

There have been many tests run by different people on Modular Depot, there are quite a few people with gobs of power that still use the stock cops. There's really no reason to use any of the aftermarket ones. They're just another pretty part with empty promises.

Bigdrumma22 · 07-25-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AdRock

There have been many tests run by different people on Modular Depot, there are quite a few people with gobs of power that still use the stock cops. There's really no reason to use any of the aftermarket ones. They're just another pretty part with empty promises.

Got any links handy? Not arguing for proof, but wouldn't mind seeing it myself.

aguilarf · 07-25-2008, 09:19 PM

From: http://www.svt4u2try.com/Mystuff/Mus...d_ignition.htm

"Many many many many cars with over 1000 HP have used the stock coilpacks with no problems what-so-ever. The stock Motorcraft coilpacks made Dave King the fastest supercharged 4.6L in the world. There is no reason to use anything other than stock. If you must use an aftermarket coilpack due to prices (MSD costs less than the stock coilpack from Ford), MSD is the only one I would consider."

Info on Dave King from 2004: ////// 2004 RACING NEWS /// June ’04 Results

Poisoned Pony · 07-25-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigdrumma22

You can get a set of MSD's for like $370-400 a set. The motorcrafts are like $45-50/each. GMS are like $300 a set. Accel makes some too, can't remember how much they are. Just go with whatever fits your budget.

Accel's are about $35 through Jeg's, alot cheaper than the Motorcraft's right now.

Bird · 07-25-2008, 10:59 PM

A lot of Lightnings running 16+# boost are getting along fine with the stock CP's - if your's are still good, stick with what works.

Bird

seco · 07-26-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Poisoned Pony

Accel's are about $35 through Jeg's, alot cheaper than the Motorcraft's right now.

not bad - i'll look into it

seco · 07-26-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aguilarf

When I had to replace mine, I went with the Summit brand ones. Cheaper than OEM, at 34.95 a piece. Haven't had any problems with them so far.

I have heard GMS is not worth the price, they have had issues with quality control. But they may have gotten better by now.

Ignition Coils - summitracing.com

yeah I've come across these before in a catalog - I'll look into it

**AdRock** · 07-28-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigdrumma22

Got any links handy? Not arguing for proof, but wouldn't mind seeing it myself.

Go over to Modular Depot and search "cops". Then just read through some of the threads. Granatelli comes into most of them defending his stuff but IMO Granatelli still makes crap for the most part.

The only piece I have ever though of buying for the cops were the new rope connectors and better plug boots they sell ( PIC BELOW ). I think the OEM wire that goes from the coil to the plug inside the boot is pretty crappy.

Bigdrumma22 · 07-28-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AdRock

Go over to Modular Depot and search "cops". Then just read through some of the threads. Granatelli comes into most of them defending his stuff but IMO Granatelli still makes crap for the most part.

The only piece I have ever though of buying for the cops were the new rope connectors and better plug boots they sell ( PIC BELOW ). I think the OEM wire that goes from the coil to the plug inside the boot is pretty crappy.

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com...8-1812s_lg.jpg

I haven't had to mess with mine as of yet. Had a cylinder 3 misfire a while back, but Jody took care of that for me. Are these you posted just a better conductor? Isn't the factory conductor just a spring??

What's anybody know about these? Have these been tested against the others??
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aguilarf 2001 Oxford White Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 592 Trader Rating: (9)	When I had to replace mine, I went with the Summit brand ones. Cheaper than OEM, at 34.95 a piece. Haven't had any problems with them so far. I have heard GMS is not worth the price, they have had issues with quality control. But they may have gotten better by now. Ignition Coils - summitracing.com __________________

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AdRock I am the Great Cornholio, give me all your TP Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: On The Move Posts: 5,252 Trader Rating: (5)	There have been many tests run by different people on Modular Depot, there are quite a few people with gobs of power that still use the stock cops. There's really no reason to use any of the aftermarket ones. They're just another pretty part with empty promises. __________________ '02 Stang GT Just cause you don't understand what's going on ...don't mean it don't make no sense And just cause you don't like it,...don't mean it aint no good And let me tell you something Before you go taking a walk in my world,...you better take a look at the real world Cause this aint no Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Can you say "feel like shit?"Yea maybe sometimes I do feel like shit I aint happy about it, but I'd rather feel like shit than be full of shit! And if I offended you, Oh I'm sorry, But, maybe you need to be offended But here's my apology and one more thing........Fuck you! Cause you can't bring me down

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aguilarf 2001 Oxford White Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 592 Trader Rating: (9)	From: http://www.svt4u2try.com/Mystuff/Mus...d_ignition.htm "Many many many many cars with over 1000 HP have used the stock coilpacks with no problems what-so-ever. The stock Motorcraft coilpacks made Dave King the fastest supercharged 4.6L in the world. There is no reason to use anything other than stock. If you must use an aftermarket coilpack due to prices (MSD costs less than the stock coilpack from Ford), MSD is the only one I would consider." Info on Dave King from 2004: ////// 2004 RACING NEWS /// June ’04 Results __________________

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