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    99-04 V6 Windstar Upper Manifold Swap

    Ok, so alot of people were curious on how and why I did this. The WHY is easy; its different. I AM the black sheep with things it seems now-a-days, so it was a perfect project to get done. I originally got the idea from Tom Yentzer himself at Super Six Motorsports. Its bolted on to his 4.3L /w nitrous. I hit him up with an email sometime back, asking what was up. The perfect bolt on for a boosted/nitrous applicated motor, he said. Its plastic, lightweight, can hold some serious boost [up to 18psi] and it looks great. So I bought mine and took about 4 days and alot of running around to get it done.

    Mine came off a 1997 Windstar minivan. Looks a little bit something like this...




    Its a direct bolt on, meaning nothing on the lower intake manifold had to be messed with or fabbed. However, comma, during installation, we saw that it was going to sit a good bit lower, so the fuel rails had to be "bent" out of the way a tad bit for a good fit with the help with some spacers. You can look around online and find some pre-made durable G10 Phenolic spacers. VAP Auto - Specializing in 3.8L Mustang Performance is a good site for that. I didnt buy one of these. So I just took an intake gasket and had it sent to a local machining shop near by my house. Had them cut me two 1/4" aluminum spacers, and the guy did a SWEET job. Couldnt have been more perfect.







    Also, the EGR must be deleted in order to do this [requiring a tune, but thats later]. That took a good bit, that mofo would NOT come off. Some extra muscle and cans of WD40 did the trick trying to disconnect the line from the bung on the manifold. The EGR attachment up from had to be deleted as well. Took that gasket to the same shop, and he made me another little "plate" to bolt on there.





    Now, it was time to fit the intakes onto each other. Nice and easy.... The issue I ran into here, and an issue others ran into here, was the fuel rails that kinda gotta be bent outa the way. Some didnt have a fuel rail issue, so I guess if you run into it, just slightly bend them outward till the manifold and rails dont rub.





    So after the main work is done, time to get some of the extra stuff done. The IAC and TPS had to be fabbed apart and relocated in my setup. The coilpack and throttle cables needed special brackets to be customly handcrafted to be get installed.

    *NOTE* Theres a spot on the Windstar manifold where the IAC can be bolted to the top of the manifold itself, where its supposed to go originally. If you can find a manifold where you dont have to fab anything, just makes things a ton easier. The very first picture of this topic actually shows what its supposed to look like.

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    Heres myself and someone elses setup to show the brackets for the coilpack.







    Heres the relocated IAC. It was basically just constructed of a small square block with two bolt holes, and two larger holes with hose-bungs on one side. It bolted to the IAC via the two bolt holes and all you did was connect the respective hoses to the bungs and bingo. I had to ziptie mine to the rear [where you see in the pic] so that it didnt move around everywhere.





    The TPS is going to need the wires lengthened, so some soldering will have to be done, so itll reach your throttle body. This is the other guys setup, he had a better picture. lol.






    The bracket that the other guy made to get his throttle cables installed. Mine was fairly different. I didnt install my cruise control cable, so mine only had one adaption.





    The MAF cable had to be lengthened as well, so those will need some soldering action too. By this time, you should see how everything goes, where you can probably do some tweeks in your setup. The way you do everything else from here on out would be all up to you, cuz after the main stuff is done, youll need to reconnect your air induction system, wether you can fab up your stock one or you use a CAI you already have. Mine? I did something I did with my 5.0 I had in Alaska. I went to Home Depot and bought some white PVC pipe. Spray painted it black, and fabbed a neat little setup. I wanted to keep using my K&N filter, but I didnt have an adapter, so I had to make one. I got creative and I made one out of the stock housing on our V6 air intake tubing, where the MAF housing originally bolts up to, cuz on the other side, you can slide on a filter [since thats where your stock filter slides on to], so it worked out quite well. That should do it, really. It took me about 4 days to do, since I didnt have alot of the needed materials on hand. Though, if I did, it woulda took me a weekend no problem.

    The power increase? Dyno results on one guys stock 3.8L Mustang gave him an increase in 10rwhp and 26rwtq. After a tune and advanced timing, his final result was an increase of 22rwhp and 35rwtq. Mine? I didnt dyno my car before this, so I didnt know what I was making, but at the time, I wasnt making much. After the Windstar intake, I dynoed at 180rwhp / 215rwrq. I also had underdrive pullies, longtube headers, and some minor stuff done. So with some bolt ons and the Windstar, I was able to make a good 50rwhp increase on a six-banger. Impressive.

    And thats about it!!!



    **BEFORE/AFTER PICTURES**










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    damn good job

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    I would do this but it seems like a lot of custom work. Hey you have a 4.3 with the 224/230 cam from SSM? how does it idle, is it pretty shaky?
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    Why not use the ones off the f150, they are aluminum?

    Quote Originally Posted by saleen-00 View Post
    9k for vette wheels/tires?

    you must be bubba's bitch in the car industry cause seems like everybody rapes your ass
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    i like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2004gt View Post
    Why not use the ones off the f150, they are aluminum?
    Those things are huge! Scrool all the way down tothe last pic for a size comparision Redlined Performance Mustangs - www.rpm-mustangs.com
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    Smells like someone died Regular Member 2004gt's Avatar
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    Its the same size as the one he used its just aluminum instead of plastic

    Quote Originally Posted by saleen-00 View Post
    9k for vette wheels/tires?

    you must be bubba's bitch in the car industry cause seems like everybody rapes your ass
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    You might let us know the guy that plasma cut the spacers for you.
    I suspect he could sell a few more without anyadditional programming costs.

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    Here are the pics from my swap. I got a kit from someone on 3.8mustang. It turned out great, and I got to keep my EGR!






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    looks good

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    The swap looks super clean ...awesome bolt on idea ..ill probably be doing this myself

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    very cool guys! great idea and some very clean work!
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    Different, I like it.
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    COST????? DID IT IMPROVE THE ACCELERATION AND PERFORMANCE........ MINE IS PRETTY QUICK RIGHT NOW I JUST HAD MINE POLISHED...... WHERE U GET ALL THE PARTS? I AM PRETTY INTERESTED IN DOING IT TO MY LIL PONY.


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    Mine cost me about $200-$300 to do, including all parts and modifications? Kicked back in the garage the whole weekend with an endless supply if Diet Cokes and got it done. Had it dyno-tuned afterward and it gave me 180rwhp and 215rwtq on stock internals, with other bolt-ons already included like underdrive pullies, full exhaust with longtube headers.

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