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The Ruiner
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Anyone a 4.2L 6er here?
I wanna go the same route, just need a teeny bit of help and extra knowledge. I currently lost an Ebay thing for a new 4.2L Ford crankshaft. So I needa keep looking out...
ANYWAY All I know so far, the crank makes the biggest difference. As for push rod lengths, and minor stuff of that sort, I need further guidance. Ive talked to Matt off V6Power, the guy with the 9 sec. V6, and all hes told me was to switch cranks if I were to keep the same engine and machine the internals. If that is all I needa do, then I guess leave everything else alone?
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Back in the saddle again
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this is called "stroking"
when you stroke a motor, you are increasing the distance the piston travels up and down. There by makig your cylinder a taller glass of fuel and air. a 4.2 crank will have connections for the rods that ar further form the crankshaft centerline. To toss in a crank without doing anything else, You need one of 2 things. a taller block, or a shorter connecting rod. If you did neither of these and just put a crank in, you could not put the heads back on the car because the pistons would stick out of the engine block when they come to TDC the highest point before they go back down. when stroking you put in the bigger crank and a shorter rod. Rod length has no effect on displacement. This will offset the larger crank so the pistons only come to the top of the engine block instead of sticking out. But you get your extra .4 liters. The shorter the rod, the more angle it makes between the crank and the piston. with a bad enough angle, you can have piston cock, but we will talk about that next week How much do you have in mind to spend and how fast do you want to be, maybe we can help you out with some ideas.
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The Ruiner
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Well, right now? Money isnt a problem. Ive been able to budget well enough to save a good chunk of change in the bank right now. Then again, I am in no rush. I mean, I have tons of time to do so. But I just wanna get an early start.
I dont know how fast a supercharged 4.2L can be, havent come across anyone thats done so yet. And yes, this was the project after the engine work is done. A Vortech. Any info would be very greatly appreciated. =D
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Back in the saddle again
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well, may I present a question?
If It came down to spending the same amount of money andf making less power, would you choose the v6 over a 4.6 swap?
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I eated it..
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I guess I know nothing of the V-6 world, but hey, if money is not an object, go for it. A 9 sec. V-6 is impressive and would kill tons of V-8 engines.
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Because its kind of more impressive how many 9 second V6's do you see running around But this comming from someone who cheaped out and bought a cobra insted of building the v6 ![]()
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I eated it..
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Built 00 Windsor engine, .20 over, 11.6:1cr, fully ported heads, Hardballer intake w/cooling mod, Scat rods, Probe pistons, Cobra crank, tri-metal Clevite race bearings, VT Stage 2 N/A cams, adjustable cam gears, Canton windage tray, MMR oil pump, Cobra pick up, 75MM Accufab t-body, Dragon plenum, JLT CAI, 24# injectors, Bassani mid lengths, mufflers & O/R X,255lph fuel pump, BBK FPR, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, AJE K-member, ARP hardware everywhere, X-Cal SCT custom tuned, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, polygraphite motor mounts. |
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Um grand nationals have V6s as do typhoons and syclones Some times its just wiser to look at a Mach 4v swap. getting a better foundation is never "cheaping out"
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The Ruiner
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Well, Im currently saving for the 4.2L engine Im gonna purchase around the Ootober timeframe. Its pushed out 220hp to the wheels stock. Im adding my own lil goodies to it, including stage 3 ported upper and lower intakes, stage 3 cylinder heads, forged rods, pistons & rockers. The finished block will push out 300rwhp once installed without any bolt on. Ill be then taking all my bolt ons that I have now and swap to the new engine, then tune with my SCT Xcal II that I just recently bought.
Next year, Ill already have enough money once again to buy myself a Vortech V2SQ Supercharger that Im looking at right now. Ive thought even more into the future and looked at swapping out my rear end with an 8.8 and more suspension upgrades in case that I sell my old 3.8L block. That money is gonna [if all goes well] to my nitrous system. =]
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The Silver Six
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The Ruiner
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+1 lol
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looks mean, workin' on the fast
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apparently from what jeff was telling me, it's really not cost effective to do a 4.6 swap on a 6.... you have to change the tranny, rear, and lots of other stuff including SOOOOOO much wiring it's not even funny because of the PATS...
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I fix shit Brent breaks :p
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The Ruiner
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Indeed. Thats gonna be a KILLER setup. Strokers own all. =D
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Or you could get an 4.2L F150 v6 engine too from a junkyard or something. If you plan on FI anyways, why not go with a H/C/I swap. I'm getting mine installed right now; Super Six Motorsports I got the stage2+ because I'm not going to add F/I any time soon if at all. Stage 3 would be your better application. Those #'s posted on his site are at the crank.
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The Ruiner
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I WAS gonna go with supersix and buy the stroker kit, but when I realized from a friend who bought a brand new engine already stroked, bored, and honed for just 400 dollars more from a website, it seemed just a lil bit more logical. Besides, good point to buy a block with 0 miles on it and go from there, rather to stroke a block you already have with X amount of miles.
...and unlike the supersix dyno numbers, these were at the wheels. =]
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