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Old 11-29-2007, 03:17 PM   #1
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bad belt?

ok so now the whine has been taken over by a really obnoxious squeal from what i think is my serpentine belt? im not sure, but the belt seems tight enough? what do yall think it could be?... the sqeal only happens when the cars been sitting for a while like at night or when im in class... do yall think it could be the belt now or what??
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Idler pulley bearing or tensioner bearing
Both are really cheap like under 20 bucks
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u can check to see if its a bearing by putting a yard stick or something similar to each pulley and listen for one thats louder than the other, it'll sound like a grinding noise
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same thing is happening to greg's sister's car! conspiracy? yesss!
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how would putting a yard stick to each pulley make a sound??? like put pressure on the pulley or something????
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:31 AM   #6
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same thing is happening to greg's sister's car! conspiracy? yesss!


heres a fun fact, i used to work with gregs sister
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how would putting a yard stick to each pulley make a sound??? like put pressure on the pulley or something????
put the yard stick to the bolt that holds the pulley on... it must be running while you do this so be carefull
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how would putting a yard stick to each pulley make a sound??? like put pressure on the pulley or something????
what theyre trying to say is use the yardstick as a stethoscope. put one end near each pulley (or on the pulley bolt) and put your ear on the other end to isolate where the noise is coming from. but like david said, be careful

another way is to just take the belt off and spin the pulleys by hand, listening for noise.
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okay, i THINK i know what yall are talking about... what kind of sound am i looking for? like the same squeal that ive been hearing?


thanks for all yalls help on this it really means a lot
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pour water on the belt if the squeal stops its your belt
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okay, i THINK i know what yall are talking about... what kind of sound am i looking for? like the same squeal that ive been hearing?


thanks for all yalls help on this it really means a lot
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it'll sound like a grinding noise
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same thing is happening to greg's sister's car! conspiracy? yesss!
exactly what i was thinking!
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heres a fun fact, i used to work with gregs sister
ya you did but this is my other sister's car haha
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pour water on the belt if the squeal stops its your belt

Bingo..if you got coolant on your belt it will make a horrible sound like a bad bearing-Shane
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if the belt is glazed.. then the belt needs to be replaced..
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:18 PM   #15
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ok so theres no coolant on the belt and the belts not glazed or anything, i hear a squeaking comming from one of the pulleys (i tried the yardstick thing but my mom saw me and kinda rode my ass for it and called me a dumbass and asked what drugs i was on) lol the sound seems to be comming from the upper left pulley? i think, i dont know what pulley it is
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:15 PM   #16
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so i went out to eat with my GFs dad today and we were talking about it and he also thinks its the tensioner bearing, do any of yall know how to fix it?
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replace the pulley, there not that expensive
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:23 PM   #18
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would i need to go get a pulley puller for that?
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no you dont need a puller. just a 15mm (if i remember right) socket. usually the only thing you need a puller for is power steering or harmonic balancer.
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:53 PM   #20
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nope dont need puller and ya i think 15mm is right on the money

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Old 12-09-2007, 02:35 AM   #21
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ok so kinda pissed... mom woke me up this morning and made me take my car to her mechanic guy, lol supposedly my parents dont trust me to change some little part.
lol anyway on the way over to his place the squealing totally stopped so when we opened up the hood and started the car i sounded like an idiot telling him it squealed when there were no squeals at all .
only good thing comming out of this is that im saving some gas money because my GF is driving me around till its fixed


thanks for all yalls help on the subject
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:30 PM   #22
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ok, so the car came back from the mechanic and Don, i think you were the most right about it, it was both those parts, and he changed the belt... still kinda pissed because its money out of my pocket but he only charged us 80 for parts and labor so not totally bad
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