[ZEROFACTOR]

I sent BamaChips an email so I can get some info on what type of tune and CAI system will be best for my Auto 05 GT and I thought I could share their insight with you guys who are also looking around for a CAI system. I hope this is useful to you as it was to me.


To: ZEROFACTOR
Subject: RE: Message from Bamachips.com

Hello,

On a 4.6 I focus in where the factory left off, the mid range torque curve.
My 4.6 programs are aimed more at adding more torque in the 1500-3500 rpm
range and with the performance program more top end power as well. On all
of my products I can raise or remove the rev and speed limiters. On the
automatics I improve the shift quality as well as totally remapping the
torque converter which leads to greatly reduced times at the drag strip.
Also with the 05 ups I have the ability to remap the Drive-By-Wire throttle
system to further help the throttle response and get rid of that annoying
lag time.

I can adjust for most CAI kits on the market today so please be sure and
state if you have one of these kits or plan on purchasing one in the
future. If you do buy one later on simply let me know and I can email you a
new file for your new CAI. I sell the C&L and X-2 combo for $679 or the
JLT2 and X-2 Combo for $549. Either produce very similar numbers on the
dyno, around 285rwhp and 305 rwtq with a manual or 285rwhp and 295 rwtq
from an auto, both with my 91/93 programming.

Either one of the above intakes are great for the Mustang GT and when you
purchase the C&L with the Diablo Predator you'll get another $20 discount.

I normally create three programs, an 87 and 91/93 performance and a 91/93
torque, depending on what grade of fuel is available in your area. The
Torque and Performance programs differ in the range they are aimed at for
making power. The Torque is more so a daily driver program that focuses in
on the 1500-3500 rpm's band. In order to do so well in that range though
it does give up a few HP up top and this is why I break it apart from my
Performance adjustments. The Performance program is aimed at more of a
3000rpm and up rpm band focusing in more on the top end horsepower and all
out performance driving. This is a great track tune but also works well
daily driven. Any of my programs are safe to use for daily driving unless
you request a race only tune. I've just recently developed a midgrade or 89
Performance program so if you'd like to substitute it for any of the
others then just let me know.

Three programs are included for any of the prices below.

Here's a quick rundown of what I have to offer...

The SCT X-calibrator and Diablo sport Predator w/ 3 programs $379

This programmer come loaded with 3 different custom written performance
programs. Simply
plug it into your diagnostic port below the steering wheel and tune like a
pro. With easy to follow instructions it will retain your stock
programming
and re-flash your computer with up to 3 different programs there again
written for your vehicle. It will typically come with a premium gas
performance program, a regular gas program, and a premium torque program.
Then if you decide to sell the vehicle or go in for emissions/warranty
repair just
plug it in and return it to the stock calibration. These tuners will also
be able to retrieve
and clear trouble codes. For an added bonus it will also be able to
datalogg some of your engine's
sensors, this only means that it will read these functions not change them.

You will also be able to make some changes to your programming using either

the user options on the device it's self OR by plugging it into your PC
using a USB cable for the X-cal or serial cable for the Predator.

The information I'll need from you for your specific vehicle is this...

1.) Year Model
2.) Engine size and auto or manual
3.) Calibration Code 4 digit
4.) Tire size
5.) Axle code or gear ratio
6.) List of mods you've done or plan on doing soon.
7.) Premium Grade of fuel available in your area, 91, 92, or 93 octane.

Even if most of your vehicle is stock I will need to know these items due
to differences in the base files for each computer. Attached is a photo
showing the calibration code location. It's the four-digit code written on
the side of the PCM under the hood to the left of the radiator. The axle
code is written on the inside of the driver's door on the white label, it
will be a two-digit code of two letters.



Feel free to ask any questions that I may not have covered, as I know I
can't get every detail in one email. I'll be happy to help.

Thank you, Douglas Studdard.


Douglas Studdard
BamaChips Tuning
205-302-0231 Monday-Friday 10am-5pm Central
Please copy this response for faster replies.
Please forgive my delayed response as I've been away during the Memorial
holiday.

[psiperformance]

oops dble post

[psiperformance]

so basicly he will do the exact same thing anyone who uses the sct advantage or chipmaster revolution software will do to tune your car.

There is some very misleading lines in the email wich simply are not true and are his atempts at making a lay person who doesn't know the software seem like hes doing something special < IE: low rpm torque tune, high rpm tune > there simply is no reason what so ever you can not do both in the same tune with this software on this car.

For example increasing the torque down low does not in anyway effect what you can do up top .. The software is programable at all engine rpm and the changes you make down low for torque production < advancing the cam timing air fuel etc > have no effect on the upper rpm and you can still do the same stuff you would on the upper rpm for power < retard the cam, timing etc.>

So the low rpm torque tune and the high rpm power tune are mearly marketing terms for him to make the customer seem to feel like they are getting a better value by getting two tunes one for torque one for horsepower.
you can have BOTH in the SAME tune and in my opinion theres no reason not to give the customer both in the same tune.

[95 GTS]

marketing gimmick i.e. tq tune... haha

[stinginStang]

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

marketing gimmick i.e. tq tune... haha

very good marketing gimmick. He was personable and knowledgeable. We could all learn a little about selling from this man.

[psiperformance]

I dont worry about being the best salesman

I on the other hand prefer to give the customer the best value and the best product not the best warm fuzzy over something that is not honestly true < low rpm tune high rpm tune > etc.

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

marketing gimmick i.e. tq tune... haha

sorry but its a marketing gimik period .. there is no reason at all you can not have the exact same maximum torque number in your maximum horsepower tune as well..

to claim or say you need a seperate tune for each is a marketing gimik taking advantage of the lack of knowledge of the customer..

I perfer the honest aproach over the bels and whistles and make you feel like your getting more aproach.

People like that are the same type who will sell you something you dont need to fix a issue

For example a customer walks in the door and the car is blowing the spark out on a 05 at 10 psi .. The above type person would imediatly try to sell you a boost a spark and tell you why its so vastly superior etc etc and how you should use msd coils on it and how people make tons of power with them..

I on the other hand would be realistic and say if you just gap your plugs down you don't need to add anything to the car spark wise till your over 18 pounds of boost and that money is wasted because you realy wont gain any power from those parts < dyno proven>

IM not saying anything about the type of reply it was a clear forward reply of what he does. but there are gimicks in it to make him sound like hes doing more then someone else and well hes not by spliting them up if you ask me hes going LESS then others as you should have the maximum torque and horsepower in the same tune if the car is tuned right.
if hes making more torque down low with one and more horsepower up high with another hes doing it INTENTIONALY with his tuning to take advantage of the laymen.

I prefer the honest guy who gives you what you need to get where you want over the slick salesman who sells you whatever he can any day.

[95 GTS]

I've seen a local shop push new LTs on a mustang owner claiming they couldnt tune it due to a leaky slip fit. He ordered new inferior headers to the ones he had and of course it turned out to be a bad MAF, which they then "helped him out" by selling him a 90mm off an employee's car.

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I wont give out the names, but I will never refer people to that shop again when I know of such BS. It pisses me off even more since I refered that business to the shop in the first place.

[psiperformance]

just the type of think im refering to when i say slick salesman ..

I prefer to fix the problem then try to just throw parts at it

[stinginStang]

Originally Posted by psiperformance

just the type of think im refering to when i say slick salesman ..

I prefer to fix the problem then try to just throw parts at it

I think GTS's story is a little different than our salesman.

[ZEROFACTOR]

Thats why I keep my stang stock because I am scared to start adding things to my car...I dont know shit about what parts i need I will stick to computers

[Agent Jones]

hey i dealt with bamachips and customer service was great. I called about 4 different times before i ordered with him and he was nice and very paitence EVERYTIME!! Cant beat 50 bucks for a tune that nets around 25rwhp. I got the 93 Race tune from him and its GREAT!!!!!!!!

[Brent]

I dont worry about being the best salesman

Excellent marketing line.




I know a lot of people personally who have dealt with BamaChips (being from Bama and all) and they all love them. The quality is great from what I hear. I've never used them personally but I know a lot of happy people. Everyone uses marketing gimmicks to bring in customers. That's business. If he wasn't trying to actively sell himself he'd be out of business. Same for you.

[psiperformance]

well i guess you cant convince people but simple truth is

any shop you get a tune from who knows what they are doing is going to be within a couple horsepower of any other shops tune

its simply physics you cant break the laws of physics .. car will take x timing with y fuel curve and z cam positioning..

I honestly dont try to sell myself I try to give the customer the information to make the decision

IM sure i could mkae much much more money if i took the other aproach but I hate when a salesman tries to just sell me instead of inform me so I have a problem with doing that myself to others.

there are several aproaches to doing buisness and trying to sell the customer is one and a very legitimate one.

don't get me wrong i never said anything bad about bamas tunes etc. Just that there is no reason not to give the customer the best of both worlds in one tune instead of claiming it takes two and using that as a fsmoke and mirrors sales point because it simply isnt true.

[Agent Jones]

He only charges 50 bucks a tune compared to 80 bucks or more for everyone else i researched. Im sure he could charge more to make more money.