are yall gonna be running in the same class ls1punisher is in?
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are yall gonna be running in the same class ls1punisher is in?
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Eventually we will but right now just wanna go out and have fun and learn a few things. A new motor build will be in the future as well.
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
Yall should look into that new class Jason R is gonna compete in. I believe is a 8.0 or 8.5 class and just starting up. From what I understand about the class ls1punisher is in you really gotta have big big bank roll. Most guys are making 1100-1200hp na with 2 foggers on top of that. If you ain't running 5.00-5.20 at 140 plus then you aren't gonna do anything. Class has just gotten so popular it has brought out the big money guys.Originally Posted by Sick88lx
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Yeah I know the BBC guys make around a 1000 or so depending on cubes but weigh in 3250lbs + while a sbf std 20* head can weigh 2900lbs. You would need to make 800 at least N/A to be competitive. You are also only allowed 1 fogger as well. Another thing is alot of money was spent on the chassis of this car and not too many people like to do that, they try to do it with nuts alone. You can have all the power in the world but if you can hook then you aint shit. Hell why do you think Billy Glidden is out there busting everybodys ass with a 384 SBF single carb and cast intake motor compared to the Twin 90mm turbo 640+ BBC cars out there. Cause he's consistant as hell and he always finds a way to get it down there track not to mention the car cut .978-.980 60ft's.
That new class is impressive but Eaton already went 5.20's in it as well so it's not that much slower plus it's alot harder to get them small tires too hook. But dewfinatly something worth lookin into.
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
wow...
the car, the garage, the toys, the trailer and the truck....
i want your job!
lol
that combo is the perfect man-drool setup!
Yeah I just got back from my cruise so i've been out of it for a week, but it looks like she's ready to go. We are going to try and go Wednesday if not then we will be out Friday.
Here are the Final Pics, there isn't plans to change anything from how it looks right now. It's ready for the track. Hope you guys enjoy the pics and I added a vid as well.
http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...aviscar033.flv
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
That car is fewkin awesome! Great work on the build! Cannot wait to hear what the small block does down the track!? Make sure to post up first track trip results.....i've been watching this thread since the begining....Congrats travis and everybody that was apart of the build!
My phone is broke Herman that's why I haven't been able to call ya back. It broke the day before I went on my cruise so im trying to get a new one right now, but im about to head to his house so we can get everything all loaded up for tonight. So we should be there tonight and see how things go.
Rudy
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
Thats high dollar toy right there. Looks really clean.
Wondering how it ran last night
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Built & Tuned by Bell Automotive
Cage & Chassis by Noribilt
Whoa what a long night it was last night. But in the end i feel we learned quite a bit and are moving in the right direction. The car ran ok I wasn't expecting it to set the world on fire and after all as good as it sounds it's still just a 302 based motor with some 205's and a victor jr intake. The converter is way off and the car was a total pig off the line with the best 60ft of 1.67. I would say another 1500rpm for the converter and it would be good for the motor, however we dont intend to run it on the motor so much so if we loosen it up 500-700rpm I think it would be good for the spray but again im no expert by any means. The chassis is way loose and the car was literally hopping off the line. Gonna check into the shocks and see what changes can be made. We're still learning with the carb stuff so everyday is a new lesson for us but i think we'll get a handle on it soon enough. I'm certain we had too much octane, fuel psi, and drop a step to a colder plug. As well as change out the power valve as it might be resulting in a slight stumble and bog.
Antone and his son out there helping out.
Unloading ole Jyd off the trailer for the first time at the track..
Before all the homeboys got there...
Hope we got enough plugs. Probably need a few more since Pj hooked it up with a full 200lb bottle of nitrous....
Pj's badass airbrushed helmet...
Pj and his brother Mark wondering when we get to spray this bitch. Mark has a killer ass black 69 Pro Touring Camaro with a BBC and a STICK of course..
Aww hell the southside crew is here ...
Making coil-over and shock adjustments.
End of the night finally made our last pass and best pass.
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
That is an AWESOMEWhoa what a long night it was last night. But in the end i feel we learned quite a bit and are moving in the right direction. The car ran ok I wasn't expecting it to set the world on fire and after all as good as it sounds it's still just a 302 based motor with some 205's and a victor jr intake. The converter is way off and the car was a total pig off the line with the best 60ft of 1.67. I would say another 1500rpm for the converter and it would be good for the motor, however we dont intend to run it on the motor so much so if we loosen it up 500-700rpm I think it would be good for the spray but again im no expert by any means. The chassis is way loose and the car was literally hopping off the line. Gonna check into the shocks and see what changes can be made. We're still learning with the carb stuff so everyday is a new lesson for us but i think we'll get a handle on it soon enough. I'm certain we had too much octane, fuel psi, and drop a step to a colder plug. As well as change out the power valve as it might be resulting in a slight stumble and bog.
Antone and his son out there helping out.
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Unloading ole Jyd off the trailer for the first time at the track..
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Before all the homeboys got there...
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Hope we got enough plugs. Probably need a few more since Pj hooked it up with a full 200lb bottle of nitrous....
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Pj's badass airbrushed helmet...
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Pj and his brother Mark wondering when we get to spray this bitch
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Aww hell the southside crew is here ...
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Making coil-over and shock adjustments.
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End of the night finally made our last pass and best pass.
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pi swap, hitech stage 2 cams, magnaflow exhaust, broken transmission
86 GT vert-gone but not forgotten
89 lx-sayonara
73 Chevy Nova-350 sb, wish I never lost you
the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing....Edmund Burke
true true!! From what I have seen and heard those boys in that class are pretty consistant. I know the sbf have the weight break but once agian from what Ive been told its just not enough even with good reaction times and 60ft's to fend off the 8-10 mph and .2-.3 faster difference the heavier bbc's run. But you never know. There is a first time for anything and I have seen yall work wonders with dry nitrous kits so I dont put anything past yall. Good Luck either class yall enter Im sure yall will give it hell!!!
Ya eaton's car is plain nasty!! I believe he has that nizer built 43x motor. Talked to ls1punisher the other day and it looks like he will be in that class also.
sidenote* tell travis that car looks wicked!!!! To all the BPA crew awesome job!!!
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Yeah they are that's for damn sure and we dont have anything set in stone yet. Would definatly like to go out and have fun and hang out with friends and what not. We're still young and like to go out and party though so at the moment the cars dont totally consume our schedule like more of the dedicated people. People like John and Ralph and them have got their shit down and it certainly didn't happen over night. It will take time but once we do get more serious you will definatly see more of us out there 'trying' to hang with the big boys.
Good luck to Ralph and Eaton in that class im sure they will have that 8.5 stuff figured out in no time. I'll be sure to tell Travis. As for that other thing that kid is speaking beyond his means. If something is going to happen you know im the First and ONLY one that's gonna come out and say it.
DECISIONS DECISIONS"
That would be the story of tonights events. Well we loaded up for the track tonight and see if we could inprove on anything and I think we just found another headache....lol. Car right now just doesn't hit the tires hard enough. IMO it's the converter and it's just too damn tight and it's not flashing the converter high enough on the spray to really hit the tires. It stalls to about 4k on the brake. And as soon it's released it just leaves like it's got 3.08 gear or something HAHA. Only cuts a 1.49 60ft.
Also seem to be having a few problems with the carb still. Motor was originally a street oriented with a 5spd and that's how the carb was built. Now it's got a 29" tire, and a c4 with a 4k stall converter. Thanks to Orange Powerhouse Rudy for helping out with some knowledge tonight. He said the carb might not be getting a good enough signal compared to the original setup it was intended for. So will be calling Prosystems tomorrow and see what he thinks.
Dilemma...
Last pass the tranny puked the fluid out on the top end so we gotta pull it anyways and get it checked out. See how the converter is as well and im hoping to change it out into a custom one as well. So we spend $$$ on a good converter and put it back in with the c4?? And reading up on the C4's there maintenance is really high and we are not excited AT ALL about having to take this bastard out. So we sure as hell dont want to be taking them out every 30passes for rebuilds, if necessary. Other option is we have a stock case glide with a brake on it ready for a rebuild. Do we spend the money fix the glide and get a badass converter with it?? Drawbacks to the glide is we only have an 8.2 deck nitrous motor right now and is that too much tranny for us now???
Any Ideas???
Here's some of the latest pics guys.
Mark just got the camaro running a day earlier so they thought they would test it out. So he decided to cruise it on out to San Antonio with us. No better way to find out how much of a street car it is than drive it an hour and half from home. It's a 500+ BBC and a Tremec
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
That camaro is pure sex. What a bad ass car! And honestly I think the glide would work out well for that car on the bottle.
91 SSP Coupe
Built & Tuned by Bell Automotive
Cage & Chassis by Noribilt
MARC CAMARO IS WICKED SEXY!!!! DAMN THATS FXCKING CLEAN!!!
Sick88 I would definately talk to Ls1punisher about convertors. He wrestled that problem for a very very long time and has finally got it figured out. I remember him say the same thing about it feeling like it had 3.08's.
What was the best the blue coupe ran NA and nitrous? I was telling someone about it and thought it ran a 9.4x or 9.3x at 147
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Just my .02,
in ref to the tranny puking out the breather on the tail shaft, its pretty common from what I've seen, to include it happening to me. My understanding and experiance is that C4 will from time to time puck out the vent hole, Mine did it after the 5th hard pass, my friends has done it from time to time, he has a PA, his will do it maybe after 4 passes or not until 15 passes, no reason. It maybe that it just a tick overfilled or not, common fix is to tap the vent place a fitting on it run it to catch can. I ran mine along the drive shaft tunnel secured it to the chassy and bolted the catch can just before the rear end up where the sheet metal turn up for the rear seat, which gives enough ground clearance for going up and down the rap on the trailer.
Depending on how much power your making I would not recommend a glid because of the small cubic inch motor and the torque your down vs a 9.5 stroker.
If your un happy with your converter I had mine built by Shane's Converters at Canyon Lake Texas, guy does excellent work, and my tranny was build by Dave Delgato.
Yes and if anybody wants to see both cars up close we got a lot at the Texas Heatwave and both cars will be there so come check'em out. Yeah I was talkin to John D about it and he said to go with a low gear glide but drop back to 28's for the time being until we build a bigger motor. So if we have anymore problems with the C4 then I think we will do that. He said Ralph had a badass converter for sale as well for the glide that might work for us so we'll see.
The blue coupe didn't go that fast but I wish it did. We still had an RPM II intake on it which isn't enough for that type motor ++++ nitrous to feed enough air through it. What you up to Tom you tryin to get the troops ready incase it makes an appearance.....
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
Yeah i've been reading up on that and think I remember seeing something like that but I wasn't sure. Hopefully it's somethin like that but thanks for the info I think we'll definatly try something like that and hopefully it will work for now. Whatever torque our little motor dont have will just up the pill and make up for it...
That converter place is closed from what i hear. David was at the track during midnight madness helping us out as well and he told me about that converter place I believe. Didnt remember the name but pretty sure he said Canyon Lake so I figure that's the place.
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
Sweet!!! Yeah I know he was sending one of his convertor out to be freshened up. John knows his shxt!!!
I could have swore it ran a mid 9?
I hear you on the intake. When Jason R. and me were trying to push his car further into the 9's we tried a 200 first stage and 200 second stage,then a 300 first stage and 100 second stage. Ended up the car was just as fast on a 300 shot as a 400 shot because the heads would not take anymore. Funny it ran the fastest et on the 200 shot.
pm'd ya!!What you up to Tom you tryin to get the troops ready incase it makes an appearance.....
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Yeah John definatly knows what he's talking about. I just try and do my research and listen to others who have been there and done that and derive my own opinions based on that. . The evolution of knowledge has just changed so much from 20yrs ago you wouldnt believe the jet and fuel psi spreads we run on the spray now. Compared to the "safe" tunes them come with. But so far we've had success with it and as I said it's just a learning process so we've got a TON of that to do.
Yes it went Mid 9's but not that sort of mph. This is a nitrous car tom not one of them fancy supras you know all about. It takes some nuts to get a nitrous efi stang that damn fast. We hadn't changed the jets in it in 2 years from the time we made the first and last video of it. There's some still left in it and I have a good idea of what can make it go faster. The only problem is using the power and not breaking anything. When it made it's fastest pass I believe it was already breaking....the pin was starting to shear off the cam. Becase when we would check the timing from the week before it was 4-6* off and then we reset it and it made it's best pass. AFter that is slowed down 2 tenths and started to pop and hiccup. Timing was off again... Tore it down and the exhaust valves got bent and the cam was junk. I do believe it had more in it and have learned a few things since then that we will try out and see if it helps any. If we ever get it back to the track.... it's going on 3yrs and people still talk about it on other boards like it was yesterday. One day very soon though...
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
Bro you sound like me 10 years ago lol!!
Yeah I couldn't remember. I thought yall had lighten the car up alittle more then Jason's with brakes and such. Then did the liberty shifter or something like that. I remember seeing a video and thought DAMN!! thats moving on the mph on spray. Didn't it run high 10's na at like 127? Jason's car trapped 143 leaving on the 200 and turning the second stage on in 2nd {100shot). On the 200 shot it would usually go 139-141. The car would go 9.8-9.9's with the T5. 60's would stay in the low 1.4's. We changed the t5 for a t5z with the 2.95 first gear and it allow the car to stay in first long enough to get the 60ft down to low 1.3's. Thats when it ran the 9.65 at midnight madness. We never had any real motor issues to speak of other in melting plugs with that crap direct port he bought from Brad Lind. Fxcking junk!! Once the gemni plate went on everything was great. Jason pulled the trans everyweek and freshened it up so it held on. The midnight madness run was the one were they setup up the austin vs sa runs. 10 races $100 a race to the winner. They tried to pull some crap so Jason did this retard 6500rpm burnout and launched at 6500rpm on the dope. car made that pass and the trans was done. Lol!!
I thought the goal was to get into the 9's with a efi/t5 car like yall were trying to do. Ended up it was by any means necessary. I wish Jason kept it efi for that!! I was againest the change. Car ran 11.2@122 na with the efi and 11.19@119 with the carb. The carb made 421whp and the efi made 391whp but the carb was hurting threw the mid range by 20-35whp until 5800rpm. Ralph's car ran 11.51@121 na and ran a [email protected] on the 200 shot with the t5 but he was talked into a automatic by other people and finally went the 9.99@134 on the 300shot. I kept saying yall are missing the point. 9's have been done but doing it with a efi/t5 is the goal. Yall definately stayed true to the cause!!! I wouldnt take it back!! it was alot of fun.It takes some nuts to get a nitrous efi stang that damn fast.
Its the car owned by someone else now?If we ever get it back to the track.... it's going on 3yrs and people still talk about it on other boards like it was yesterday. One day very soon though...
Last edited by cobratom; 07-07-2009 at 01:37 PM.
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hole-lee fuck!!
Dont say that shit you make me feel old Tom. I still remember meeting you and Ralph the first time years ago when i was a senior. Damn that's like 6-7yrs ago.
The car was light but not as light as alot of people seemed to think. Dean's dumbass was running around telling everybody it was 2600lbs with driver and all this bunch of bullshit. It still had full interior front and back seats for the most part. Except there were 2 twin full bottles for a passenger seat, mild steel cage, blowproof housing and the r block is a bit heavier that the stock block as well. The problem with our setup is we ran a completely stock computer for the longest time. As you can imagine you can only turn so many rpm with a 26" and 3.55 that we would always be right on the rev limiter every pass. Once we deleted the rev limiter the mph picked up.Yeah I couldn't remember. I thought yall had lighten the car up alittle more then Jason's with brakes and such. Then did the liberty shifter or something like that. I remember seeing a video and thought DAMN!! thats moving on the mph on spray. Didn't it run high 10's na at like 127? Jason's car trapped 143 leaving on the 200 and turning the second stage on in 2nd {100shot). On the 200 shot it would usually go 139-141. The car would go 9.8-9.9's with the T5. 60's would stay in the low 1.4's. We changed the t5 for a t5z with the 2.95 first gear and it allow the car to stay in first long enough to get the 60ft down to low 1.3's. Thats when it ran the 9.65 at midnight madness. We never had any real motor issues to speak of other in melting plugs with that crap direct port he bought from Brad Lind. Fxcking junk!! Once the gemni plate went on everything was great. Jason pulled the trans everyweek and freshened it up so it held on. The midnight madness run was the one were they setup up the austin vs sa runs. 10 races $100 a race to the winner. They tried to pull some crap so Jason did this retard 6500rpm burnout and launched at 6500rpm on the dope. car made that pass and the trans was done. Lol!!
Yeah it seemed as if everybody else did it their own way but we had to stick with it. You were there on the 10.008 pass and saw just how close we were before anybody was even close. We couldnt let it kick our ass and had to get that elusive 9 with the efi/5spd. Not to mention we were still doing it with edelbrock performer heads while you guys had all the good shit with AFR 185's and what not. We found something though when we broke the first 331 in the black car and just put a JYD stock block, crank, and rod 306 that ended up going 10.05 @ 135. Based off that my dad built that killer little 306 for the blue car. Im sure he's told you but that 306 was a running bastard. It went 9.83 @133 ON THE REV-LIMITER the last 100-200feet. We were in dis-belief believe me on that. Had we not had a stock computer in it and or less gear it was going 9.7x @138 or so. Now tell me who would of thought that could have been done 5-6yrs ago when nobody could even do it with a stroker.I thought the goal was to get into the 9's with a efi/t5 car like yall were trying to do. Ended up it was by any means necessary. I wish Jason kept it efi for that!! I was againest the change. Car ran 11.2@122 na with the efi and 11.19@119 with the carb. The carb made 421whp and the efi made 391whp but the carb was hurting threw the mid range by 20-35whp until 5800rpm. Ralph's car ran 11.51@121 na and ran a [email protected] on the 200 shot with the t5 but he was talked into a automatic by other people and finally went the 9.99@134 on the 300shot. I kept saying yall are missing the point. 9's have been done but doing it with a efi/t5 is the goal. Yall definately stayed true to the cause!!! I wouldnt take it back!! it was alot of fun.
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
LOL bro tell me about it!!!! I talk about stories that feel like yesterday and they are 7-10 years ago. I sold my orange car 6 years ago!Dont say that shit you make me feel old Tom. I still remember meeting you and Ralph the first time years ago when i was a senior. Damn that's like 6-7yrs ago.
Yeah we figured that out real quick!!! We would get around 900ft and smack the limiter! Ralph bought that rpm extender from your dad and we dropped to 3.55's. I remember the weight being talked about but I didnt remember who or what. I remember coming to the shop and pops was showing the brakes that why I asked.
Yeah I remember watching for almost a year it seemed that yall were running 10.00-10.30's. I remember the only reason we took any of the cars to the track was because everyone {Brat Pack} got tired of defeating how fast {mph wise} their cars were. I remember telling everyone that Ralph's car was a 140 trapping car and got laughed at. Boy I remember when he riped off the 138 at seguin with the clutch slipping and you could hear a pin drop. I turned around and looked at everyone from the street scene on the fence watching. Alot of pissed off people and alot of shocked people. As a matter of fact your pops was the only one I remember coming up to me and telling that was sick! After that Ralph and Jason got the hair up their butt to go for the 9's.
Yeah I think thats why it did take alot of nitrous to get them mph out of the cars.
I never knew it was a 306 but like I said I never put anything pass yall. I remember buying a set of ported and milled edelbrock heads from your dad. I put it in a 95 gt I put together with a holley systemmax,1 5/8 lt's,1:7 rockers,stock cam and 3.08's out back. The guy ran out of money so no cam or gears. We took it to the track and ran a 13.3@109 on street tires.I called your dad and was like
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That car is sick.
sick car
this is by far one of the most beautiful/detail fox i've seen up to now.. you have a beautiful car
yeah exactly PJ would have to turn every bit of the stock rev limiter to get thru the traps with the black car. Crazy enough it seemed as if the dry kit's would mph more than when we had the wet kits on. The brakes were good because they were BETTER than stock that's for sure, but not just the 35lbs or so we lost off the front end but the rotating mass that most people dont account for helps even more.
Yeah Ralph had alot of untapped power left in that car that's for sure. I still remember when we brought the black coupe to Chili's and it looked like the biggest POS anybody had ever seen. Then when he ran Jason and even Jason got a jump on him and the black car was just gone after that. People flocked to it like what the hell did that car just doo. Then one of our friends was asking my Dad hey Buck ya'll 2stg him....and then you could just see the lightbulb on top of your head go off.Yeah I remember watching for almost a year it seemed that yall were running 10.00-10.30's. I remember the only reason we took any of the cars to the track was because everyone {Brat Pack} got tired of defeating how fast {mph wise} their cars were. I remember telling everyone that Ralph's car was a 140 trapping car and got laughed at. Boy I remember when he riped off the 138 at seguin with the clutch slipping and you could hear a pin drop. I turned around and looked at everyone from the street scene on the fence watching. Alot of pissed off people and alot of shocked people. As a matter of fact your pops was the only one I remember coming up to me and telling that was sick! After that Ralph and Jason got the hair up their butt to go for the 9's.
When it was first built and we took it to the track it had a stock early model block 306 and I said it was gonna go 10.5's and it did. After that im not sure what happened but all of a sudden BOOM it went 10.05 @ 135 with a stock t5 in it. Made a couple changes and added the BPA shot to the brand new gforce after we drove it down there. First pass 9.83 @ 133. I still got the vid of that at home and that's 1 video I had never even posted. I remember hearing about that car it ran damn good considering the essential gears, cam, and tires weren't even there. Yeah ibe just been learning a thing or two from him...I never knew it was a 306 but like I said I never put anything pass yall. I remember buying a set of ported and milled edelbrock heads from your dad. I put it in a 95 gt I put together with a holley systemmax,1 5/8 lt's,1:7 rockers,stock cam and 3.08's out back. The guy ran out of money so no cam or gears. We took it to the track and ran a 13.3@109 on street tires.
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
You know whats funny is that Jason was part of the Brat Pack but always did his own thing and was in competition with everyone in the Brat Pack. He never wanted to listen just do is own thing which was cool but he was always behind. He had it out for Ralph bad. When Ralph and I parted ways Jason called me and said "dude I have been chasing yall for years. Help me out!" There was always talk about Jason being sneeky so I told him I need to see where the car was at and go from there. We went to SAR and it ran a 10.8@130 on both kits. Jason got out of the car and said that all its got. He said its sad that Jeremy's 302 went 10.6@130 on a 175 shot. Changed the H/C/I out fixed his nitrous systems. It was still efi at this point. Went back to the track and sprayed the 2nd kit {100shot} and ran a 10.6@132 on the first pass. Decided to spray both kits {200/100}. LOL!! 10.34@138!!! Looked like he spent the whole end of the race track in the limiter!! I told him before hand we would need a rpm extender to get to the end. Few days later he showed up with that direct port carbed setup from Brad Lind talking about "bye bye limter"
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Yeah thats crazy I remember him saying something like that he'll bring more than a 125shot next time or something but It was all good. I wish the black coupe and Ralph would of ran spray to spray from a 40roll. But everybody pretty much knew what the Black car had and nobody wanted any part of it. Im sure if your car was running you would of but you were down at the time. If I knew the stuff I know now back then then who knows how fast we could've gone. LOL @ Brad Lind...i still remember talkin shit to my friend that rode with him to SA to go pick up his parachute for his 10sec car.You know whats funny is that Jason was part of the Brat Pack but always did his own thing and was in competition with everyone in the Brat Pack. He never wanted to listen just do is own thing which was cool but he was always behind. He had it out for Ralph bad. When Ralph and I parted ways Jason called me and said "dude I have been chasing yall for years. Help me out!" There was always talk about Jason being sneeky so I told him I need to see where the car was at and go from there. We went to SAR and it ran a 10.8@130 on both kits
I'll give ya'll one thing though ya'll sure as hell weren't scared of putting a bunch of spray to them. We pretty much got away with murder with that dry kit....thought we were spraying more than we actually were.
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
Run What You Brung was my thinking. I think thats why I got along with everyone! I never backed down from any race when the car was running but thats the reason it was always down lol!!! It was the strongest out of all the Brat Pack cars for sure. Why do you think I was put up agianest Mike Andrews. I use to race ralph motor to motor and walk away from him. I could never get it to do anything at the track but break when I tryed to get a serious time and believe me I tried. I put slicks on it twice and broke the trans both times NA. I tried to spray it and trashed 3rd. My nx race efi system soloniod locked up and blew my air meter off and then got ran over. Everytime the car hit the track it broke. I gave up on trying to get a good time and I would launch around 3500rpm cut a 1.70 60ft's and run consistent 11.4's 121-123 na. Never made a full pass on the dope. Just got tired of putting money into just to get a time that impressed everyone else. I have no regrets from back then except I wish I could have raced more.They were good times and wish I could go back and do more!! I wish I could have brought the new setup out!!! DAMN EX-WIFES!!!
We pulled alot of timing and we would up the fuel jets to put a conservative tune on them. Based on the plugs. Ya'll pushed those dry kits to insane times!! I dont have any idea how much yall were spraying. I think once we started going to the track and putting up numbers and traps everyone started guessing. I really never cared about it how much nitrous anyone was on or the setup. I was happy for everyone!
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[QUOTE=cobratom;629715]Run What You Brung was my thinking. I think thats why I got along with everyone! I never backed down from any race when the car was running but thats the reason it was always down lol!!! It was the strongest out of all the Brat Pack cars for sure. Why do you think I was put up agianest Mike Andrews. I use to race ralph motor to motor and walk away from him. I could never get it to do anything at the track but break when I tryed to get a serious time and believe me I tried. I put slicks on it twice and broke the trans both times NA. I tried to spray it and trashed 3rd. My nx race efi system soloniod locked up and blew my air meter off and then got ran over. Everytime the car hit the track it broke. I gave up on trying to get a good time and I would launch around 3500rpm cut a 1.70 60ft's and run consistent 11.4's 121-123 na. Never made a full pass on the dope. Just got tired of putting money into just to get a time that impressed everyone else. I have no regrets from back then except I wish I could have raced more.They were good times and wish I could go back and do more!! I wish I could have brought the new setup out!!! DAMN EX-WIFES!!![quote]
Oh yeah I hear ya on that and I know you would run anything whether it was us or some grandma in a lebaron, it didn't matter. Some times there are track cars and street cars. I felt more comfortable on the street than at the track but I really havent had much of a chance to go latel. But I will go out there soon hopefully with one of our jyd setups and have some fun. Yeah that new setup of yours would of broke alot of T5's...lol
IMO those setups come with a conservative tuneup as it is, and you can just as easily detonate a motor when you have too much fuel in it and you will kill a cylinder QUICK. There's a fine line between lean and mean and safe and conservative. We only ever had a 4an feed line and the baby powershot solenoids. The 4an line will only flow so much and it's really only about 200. Hence why the dry kits are only rated to 175.We pulled alot of timing and we would up the fuel jets to put a conservative tune on them. Based on the plugs. Ya'll pushed those dry kits to insane times!! I dont have any idea how much yall were spraying. I think once we started going to the track and putting up numbers and traps everyone started guessing. I really never cared about it how much nitrous anyone was on or the setup. I was happy for everyone!
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
Yeah it would have lol!! But I had a x2c cryo-treated tko {rated 880ft} and a mclead twin-disc in it.
yeah thats why we tuned off what the plugs did. they are based conservative but that is also based using everything from one brand. We had mixed parts on the cars. nx then and that with nos this and that. Back before the wide band days!!lol
You know I was told that was a big spoof by nx and nos. The whole 4an max 200 shot deal. When I ordered my NX Race Efi kit it came with a 4an feed line and it was rated to spray a single shot up to 300. When we ran the jason's and ralph car they had the same 4an feeds supplying both kits. I believe yall ran that on a small shot. Like I said when jason ran the 9.65@139 it was on the 200shot. It was at that grudge deal and he was suppose to race that guy from SA with the c5 408 on 2 stages and the guy blew a head gasket testing the car before they were suppose to line up. They paired him up with the coupe mike andrews owned after he sold the teal cobra. I believe the car had gone 10.50's and he said that he upped the shot. Freddy said no no no this is a 9 sec vs a 10 sec car. Jason got pissed and wanted to kill someone. When he pulled to the line and did that 6500RPM burnout I knew he was gonna try and blow it up. He pulled up and I leaned down to hook up the 2 stage button on the steering wheel but I just hooked up one wireI had been working on that car non stop and did not want him to do that I knew the car could beat the coupe on one kit. He pulled to the line and I saw him turn the switch on with the intent of leaving on all of it at 6500rpm. He cut the 1.33 and ran the 9.65@139. I think we would have been there more but he he had to much going on while trying to drive the car that he just over thought everything and made mistakes before.
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The clutch would of held but no telling how long that tranny would of held. Would be good on the street but no so good at the track. You should hear all the stuff they've found out on those X2C TKO's hence why they aren't in business anymore. It's basically an over glorifed TKO with some deburred gears.
Either way there are only 2 manufacture's for nitrous solenoids and everybody else just puts there name on them and repackages them. Plug reading is an art and not everybody can do it, just reading up on it gives me a headache because NGK's and Autolites vary in certain areas. You will be quicker to burn a plug on a NGK than Autolite for example do the the thickness of the groundstrap. If you nip a plug on an autolite than watch out cause you better change somethng quick. Wide bands can only do so much but a plug will tell you everything you need to know. So far we've been very cortunate with our tuneup and considering we're new to the carb/fogger deal i'd say we are in the right direction. The converter is hindering us so much right now. I cant imagine if our tuneup was off how long we'd be running in circles chasing our tales.yeah thats why we tuned off what the plugs did. they are based conservative but that is also based using everything from one brand. We had mixed parts on the cars. nx then and that with nos this and that. Back before the wide band days!!lol
Well it's the 4an line coupled with the baby powershot solenoids that hindered us. These solenoids where the size of my thumb and im pretty sure NX doesn't offer anything that small and im not sure why the hell NOS does other than for a purge noid. Another thing that enables that kit to spray a 300shot is the fact that the wet kit doesn't need the pressures and demands for nitrous that a dry kit does.You know I was told that was a big spoof by nx and nos. The whole 4an max 200 shot deal. When I ordered my NX Race Efi kit it came with a 4an feed line and it was rated to spray a single shot up to 300. When we ran the jason's and ralph car they had the same 4an feeds supplying both kits. I believe yall ran that on a small shot. Like I said when jason ran the 9.65@139 it was on the 200shot. It was at that grudge deal and he was suppose to race that guy from SA with the c5 408 on 2 stages and the guy blew a head gasket testing the car before they were suppose to line up. They paired him up with the coupe mike andrews owned after he sold the teal cobra. I believe the car had gone 10.50's and he said that he upped the shot. Freddy said no no no this is a 9 sec vs a 10 sec car. Jason got pissed and wanted to kill someone. When he pulled to the line and did that 6500RPM burnout I knew he was gonna try and blow it up. He pulled up and I leaned down to hook up the 2 stage button on the steering wheel but I just hooked up one wire
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
Whoa what a Night... a week... HELL a past few months. FINALLY after been kicked in the ass for so damn long trying to sort the issues out it FINALLY did it. It's been a long time in the making and words cant describe the feeling of tonight. It's been nearly 4 months since we've had anything worth talking about and even then there's wasn't shit to talk about. We've been fighting suspension and transmission gremlins over and over again. From day one we've been fighting the chassis with it just unloading the tires and being too soft. Then the tranny would puke fluid again and again. But Travis never wouldnt let it kick his ass. The last time at the track we thought we'd step it up and maybe the suspension would react better, NOPE!! A little better but it was still far off. Unfortunatly that night our friend hurt the motor in his street car. So Travis said WTF load your car in the trailor and i'll drive the mustang home, no big deal. Yeah so he drove it 40 miles to Angel's shop in San Antonio and dropped it off as Angel was nice enough to let him keep it there for a few days until he had time to drive down and pick it up.
So this week Travis took it back to the chassis shop after my dad and Joseph put some new gears in and dropped the tire size to 28's. Manny made a couple changes like it was nothing and said take the sumbitch to the track and put some fire to her LOL. Hell today was my birthday and everybody was asking me where i want to go eat and drink. Shit I said I dont know about yall but I'll be at the track, my birthday can wait. Sure am glad I did. Before tonight the fastest it has been was 9.56 @ 144 w/1.50 60ft in the 1/4. The night he had drove it to San Antonio it went 6.00 @118.95 in 1/8 but 60ft was 1.48 and he lifted after that. So needless to say those aren't anything thing to really talk about. Coming in and saying it COULD or SHOULD do this just isn't me. So finally I have some good progress to report. We took it back to the track with the same exact tuneup we didn't change a thing but put the MT 28x10.5 and the 3.73 in. This was only with 850psi bottle pressue and a pretty reasonable safe tuneup according to the plugs.
60ft.....1.29
1/8et...5.58
1/8mph..125
1/4et.....8.72
1/4mph...153
Does it have more in it on KILL...Yeah, but how much longer the C4 will hold is anybody's guess. It's not a world record by any means but to us finally having an 8sec slip is what our goal has been all along and to do with a 8.2deck SBF makes it a little more special. Only way I could describe tonight was You could kick me in the nuts and still couldn't wipe the small off my face.
Sorry dont have any pics from tonight just a couple from a car show a couple months ago with some friends.
"it's just a 302"
if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
Happy belated birthday & #'s are looking good. I know it's a long road but your doing great....
160k mile stock 302 shortblock, blower cam,Dart heads,Victor 5.0 intake, MP T-76 turbo, built tranny, built rear end, & BELL PERFORMANCE custom tune.
585 rwhp / 570 rwtq on 10 psi boost & 93 octane.
Thanks I appreciate it.
Sorry took so long on the video, been a busy weekend. It's from a camera so the quality isn't the greatest but it's better than nothing. Also the slicks were just mounted with no screws so im sure if we screw them down and run on a better track prep there is more potential in the 60ft. From the vid it doesnt look like a 1.29 imo. Guess we'll see how things go next time, hopefully the weather's about the same and we can get some more out of it.
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if bottles are for babies why is everybody "crying" about it
That is just awesome! You guys going to be at Midnite Madness next weekend?
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