[s_x_i]

Originally Posted by RaceRat

Sorry, but there's no way you're making those numbers on a 2.6 @ 14psi.

Ok...

Ported Heads, Blower Cams, Stroker Moter... Ported TB, JLT intake, Bassani Headers, Magnaflow catback.

93+ Torco race tune @ 14psi...

[psiperformance]

HPP ? that explains the inflated numbers

smart money says they are standard and not sae numbers and 14 psi is still questionable .. might wana check your boost gauge heh either that or your spraying also..

it just aint gona make that much real sae rwhp with 14 psi

[s_x_i]

Well ok then.

[RaceRat]

That graph proves nothing...where's the run info on the bottom left hand corner?

What's your timing?
What kind of fuel system are you running?
What compression is your motor?

14psi on a 2.6 kb is NOT going to make that kind of power on a stock compression motor, stroker or not. You need to spin the crap out of those blowers to make big power.

You should have said it was a turbo car at 14 psi, that's believable.

[s_x_i]

Don't know what timing it's running - I didn't tune it.

Twin FGT Pumps, BAP, 60#'s

8.5:1

Why would I say it's a Turbo car? It's a twin screw. The boost guage hits 14psi right on the head every time, there is no nitrous on the car.

I don't get it... there's no reason why it shouldn't hit those numbers. Before the stroker, cams and porting it was making 611/585 @20psi. It pulls a lot harder now.

At the end of the day, I didn't build the motor and I didn't tune it. All I know is what I have been told. I do all the other work on my car, just building the motor felt like it would be a little beyond me.

[psiperformance]

YOU said yourself AT 20 PSI 6 psi is HUGE drop in power aprox 100 horsepower and your not very likely to gain 100 horsepower from the stroker and cams and porting maybee 65 but not 100..

you may have a leak in your boost gauge line.

[97ponylover]

Bravo! Way to run a new member off... these boards are suppose to be here to help people not dog on every thing that is posted. Maybe what the guy says is true, maybe it's not. If you don't believe go prove him wrong at the track. What's worse is that some of you guys are LSS sponsors. Maybe you guys have history, I don't know but it makes you look pretty bad when all you can do is post trash talk. THESOURCE took the right approach. Get info, give info and let him know you can do it if he is real.

Sorry, don't mean to preach... it just gets old seeing this kind of stuff...

[thesource]

Originally Posted by 97ponylover

Bravo! Way to run a new member off... these boards are suppose to be here to help people not dog on every thing that is posted. Maybe what the guy says is true, maybe it's not. If you don't believe go prove him wrong at the track. What's worse is that some of you guys are LSS sponsors. Maybe you guys have history, I don't know but it makes you look pretty bad when all you can do is post trash talk. THESOURCE took the right approach. Get info, give info and let him know you can do it if he is real.

Sorry, don't mean to preach... it just gets old seeing this kind of stuff...

Yeah but I'm in the dog house over on the S197 V6'er doing doughnuts on Pat Booker thread . I guess the V6 crowd is a little edgy when you talk crap about their type of car and the typical people(kids mainly) that drive them ......

[97ponylover]

Originally Posted by thesource

Yeah but I'm in the dog house over on the S197 V6'er doing doughnuts on Pat Booker thread . I guess the V6 crowd is a little edgy when you talk crap about their type of car and the typical people(kids mainly) that drive them ......

HAHAHAHA!!! Well that's what they get for buying a V6...

[s_x_i]

The Source had my business after a phone call... I'll be getting my transmission to him within the mext month.

As for the others... eh it's the internet. I have no reason to lie about my car, there's plenty of suff over on SVTP about it, so if I am lying, at least the lies are consistant!

It's faster than some and slower than some, it always will be. At least I found out where to go to get a decent transmission built, which was afterall the point of this thread.

[97ponylover]

Originally Posted by s_x_i

The Source had my business after a phone call... I'll be getting my transmission to him within the mext month.

As for the others... eh it's the internet. I have no reason to lie about my car, there's plenty of suff over on SVTP about it, so if I am lying, at least the lies are consistant!

It's faster than some and slower than some, it always will be. At least I found out where to go to get a decent transmission built, which was afterall the point of this thread.

Good to hear. I spend more and more time on other forums because of stuff like this. People will actually get on here and dog For Sale adds cause they think the price is too high. I get tired of digging through all the trash to find the good constructive talk.

[Stang13]

First of all you have 3 shop owners telling you your full of shit, I think you need to check your sources again. Second 97ponylover, your absolutely right this site is here to help people and a huge part of that is pointing out the trolls so that the people who don't know any better will not have their heads filled with trash!!! I find it very hard to believe that you are making that kind of power on a 2.6 @ 14 psi. The fact that you don't know what you timing is set at leads me to believe that you either don't do all the work on your car or that you have no business doing any work to your car "other than the motor that was a bit much for you!" I just want to know one thing,........what pulley combo are you running or do you not know that either????

[thesource]

I have no idea if his power estimates are accurate or not with his setup nor do I care . I only jumped in because we were talking about transmissions originally . I do know that there is a huge difference between 600 and 1400 horse power and to harness that kind of power is going to cost some serious cheese . I also can't see you road racing with that kind of power . I would think 600-700 at the rear wheels would be a hand full as it is .

[86sleeper]

easiest way to figure how close your blower is to maxed out is with math.
what is the crank pulley size?
what is the blower pulley size?
visit the KB site with that info to see where the blower is spinning at.

other than that, why not go the auto route?

[psiperformance]

The thing is we are simply pointing out that his numbers dont seem to be right maybee if he had a 2.8H blower or a 3.4 whipple and huge cams that alow alot of the boost out from over lap but with a 2.6 h it seems dam near impossible for those to be legitimate numbers at 14 psi

my personal car makes 640 rwhp with a 2.6 h but it has 310 cfm ported heads and huge cams and it does it at NINETEEN psi and the blower is pulleyed almost to its rpm limits i can only go down ONE more pulley size the 14 psi is what raised our eyebrows.

[s_x_i]

Originally Posted by Stang13

First of all you have 3 shop owners telling you your full of shit, I think you need to check your sources again.

I don't know what else to say. They have tuned my car in the past and no one questioned any of the numbers it put out those times.

Originally Posted by Stang13

The fact that you don't know what you timing is set at leads me to believe that you either don't do all the work on your car or that you have no business doing any work to your car "other than the motor that was a bit much for you!" I just want to know one thing,........what pulley combo are you running or do you not know that either????

OUCH!

Man that stung! I'm running a 3.5 upper, 6# lower Billetflow idlers, reichard upper idler and lfp alternator.

The Motor was a bit too much for me because I have never built a mod motor before and I didn't feel like learning on one as expensive as this. When I get a little time to myself, sure, I'd love to get into one, but when it blew, with my work schedule, building the motor at home wasn't an option.

I don't know what the timing is set at because I simply can't remember. The car was in and out of the shop for months and we had many discussions back and forth. I want to say it's at 17 degrees, but I don't want anyone to jump down my throat again. I will call HPP and find out if it really would make your evening?

For what it's worth, I grew up in a shop and have every bit of business working on my own, and other people's cars.

[thesource]

Hey S X I , are you Aussie ? Sounded like you had an accent the other day on the phone ......

If you need some help with the T56 , let me know . As for your numbers , they are just that , numbers . Maybe HPP's dyno is not correct or the numbers have not been corrected as Dean from PSI said . He knows a lot more about that than I do . Either way , keep your head up and stay focused on your goals . I think 1400 hp is a bit high myself for anything other than an all out drag car but with the way things are going now days , maybe not .

[psiperformance]

17 degrees would be conservative timing for TWENTY pouns of boost I run 19 degrees with 19 psi and pump gas.

with 14 psi i would exspect aroun 24 degrees timing on pump and more with torco.

so again that doesn't add up areyou sure is not at 19 psi ? that would make perfect sense

[RaceRat]

Originally Posted by s_x_i

I don't know what else to say. They have tuned my car in the past and no one questioned any of the numbers it put out those times.


OUCH!

Man that stung! I'm running a 3.5 upper, 6# lower Billetflow idlers, reichard upper idler and lfp alternator.

3.5 upper + 6lb lower = 19-20 psi. It's the exact setup I'm running. I also have fully ported heads, cams and longtubes with a 2.6KB. Something is up with your gauge/boost line if you're only seeing 14.

It's SCT tuned right? You can datalog the car yourself and see what your timing is.

I'm was not trying to start crap...just pointing out that your numbers didn't add up.

Here's the boost guide on KB's website. A 3.5" upper on a 2.6 is supposed to make 18psi. On a stock car, the upper/lower combo should make around 24psi. You and I both see less because of the port work and longtubes.

[Stang13]

Originally Posted by s_x_i

I don't know what else to say. They have tuned my car in the past and no one questioned any of the numbers it put out those times.


OUCH!

Man that stung! I'm running a 3.5 upper, 6# lower Billetflow idlers, reichard upper idler and lfp alternator.

The Motor was a bit too much for me because I have never built a mod motor before and I didn't feel like learning on one as expensive as this. When I get a little time to myself, sure, I'd love to get into one, but when it blew, with my work schedule, building the motor at home wasn't an option.

I don't know what the timing is set at because I simply can't remember. The car was in and out of the shop for months and we had many discussions back and forth. I want to say it's at 17 degrees, but I don't want anyone to jump down my throat again. I will call HPP and find out if it really would make your evening?

For what it's worth, I grew up in a shop and have every bit of business working on my own, and other people's cars.

I would definatley call HPP and find out what is going on. I have had bad experiences with local shops that hand out inaccurate info. If anything take is to another shop and see what they say.