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Wiked · 03-12-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86sleeper

i've seen teh exact same thing on my car with a bad cable.
It actually started and ran twice on jack stands. I ate a burger and attempted again with nothing. similar to this and my negative cable was corroded from the motor side. pretty strange.

The burger was your problem.

86sleeper · 03-12-2008, 06:45 PM

hahahahahahaha

ImpactStang · 03-12-2008, 07:04 PM

well i took the battery to auto zone and had them charge it for a hour or so and picked up an IAC as well, swapped it out and now it stayed on for bout six minutes on its own, so im hoping its good...still worried battery might die again if there is an alternator problem...it started up kinda funny but seemed to get a hold of itself after a minute

as far as corrosion i did have some on the battery before i took it to vatozone and the cables are kinda old by now, as far as changing out the terminals is that hard to do? looks pretty simple i may do that friday if the car holds up until then...if i get more corrosion quickly in a few days time what does that mean? bad cable? alternator? battery?

86sleeper · 03-12-2008, 07:17 PM

I would change out the whole cable and not just the terminal.
if there is corrosion on the terminal, there is corrosion in the cable as well.
You can get by without doing it, but it is a good suggestion.

ImpactStang · 03-12-2008, 07:19 PM

is that an all day thing?

86sleeper · 03-12-2008, 08:07 PM

on a 4.6 it can be.
If you just cut back on your current cable enough to remove the obvious corrosion, you should be fine.

hypnawtic101 · 03-12-2008, 08:51 PM

this kinda sounds like the issue u had wiked...

96greengt · 03-12-2008, 10:02 PM

The cables on the 4.6 are a PITA to do if you have never done one before. When putting the battery back in and restarting, the PCM was essentially reset, so it has to learn idle all over again. Normally, a few miles of driving cures the idle concern. As far as protecting the battery, if you have Vaseline (and I know you do Phil............ dirty dirty boy), you can smear the terminals and posts to inhibit future corrosion.

I'd run the car to the vato guys and see if they can run an alternator test on it as well to verify your alternator is still within its limits.

ImpactStang · 03-12-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96greengt

The cables on the 4.6 are a PITA to do if you have never done one before. When putting the battery back in and restarting, the PCM was essentially reset, so it has to learn idle all over again. Normally, a few miles of driving cures the idle concern. As far as protecting the battery, if you have Vaseline (and I know you do Phil............ dirty dirty boy), you can smear the terminals and posts to inhibit future corrosion.

I'd run the car to the vato guys and see if they can run an alternator test on it as well to verify your alternator is still within its limits.

(grabs vaseline from Jody's buttsecks drawer) ok so gonna smear some of your love potion on the posts (although probably not gonna do it in a sexy fashion as you would lol) probably friday when i got time again...lets say the alternator is bad, would there be warning signs ahead of time or will it just die? wouldnt want it dying before friday when i take it to them...

i just took the car out for a 15min cruise it seems to handle things well so far...

96greengt · 03-12-2008, 10:37 PM

Not gonna comment any more on what you did the other day with the anal lube.

Anyway, warning signs, battery light turns on, slow cranking, or even clicking, but it is too late by then. Or, it just up and craps out, no warning.

ImpactStang · 03-12-2008, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96greengt

Not gonna comment any more on what you did the other day with the anal lube.

Anyway, warning signs, battery light turns on, slow cranking, or even clicking, but it is too late by then. Or, it just up and craps out, no warning.

shit...maybe ill take the corolla one more day...

4.6stanger · 03-13-2008, 07:53 PM

Just curious do ya have a voltmeter?

ImpactStang · 03-13-2008, 11:08 PM

nope, at least not one im aware of, why

96greengt · 03-15-2008, 10:03 PM

You get it fixed yet... I am off for a while, maybe you can bring it to me and I figure it out for you.

ImpactStang · 03-15-2008, 10:07 PM

yeah its running, drove it to work today and thursday, seems to be fine...did sputter a bit just now while waiting to turn but didnt shut off. When I had taken the IAC off i noticed some gunk in the throttle body so thats something i know i gotta work on when i get a chance...

96greengt · 03-15-2008, 10:10 PM

Doesn't hurt to clean the TB and blade at all, find an old tooth brush, spary the inside with that same cleaner, brush it 360* and the back of the blade then spray it again for good measure. it will take a sec to start, but it is cheap maintenance.

ImpactStang · 03-15-2008, 10:12 PM

yeah ford it always trying to charge me like $90 to do it fuck that, i know i need to swap my power steering fluid out too but i doubt that would cause any sputtering...

96greengt · 03-15-2008, 10:14 PM

Nope.. but you can bring it to me and we can see what it is, maybe just something simple like bigdrumma had on his car...

ImpactStang · 03-15-2008, 10:16 PM

true...you gonna be busy during the week? im not sure what days im gonna have off but i can maybe swing by

96greengt · 03-15-2008, 10:28 PM

I am off for a while... possibly til the middle of next month.. lol

03-12-2008, 06:45 PM	#22
86sleeper Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: deer park Posts: 2,501	hahahahahahaha __________________ MIKE '86 GT:high 12's Sold '01 GT:low 11's for sale

03-12-2008, 07:04 PM	#23
ImpactStang I think he likes you... Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Antonio Posts: 3,619	well i took the battery to auto zone and had them charge it for a hour or so and picked up an IAC as well, swapped it out and now it stayed on for bout six minutes on its own, so im hoping its good...still worried battery might die again if there is an alternator problem...it started up kinda funny but seemed to get a hold of itself after a minute as far as corrosion i did have some on the battery before i took it to vatozone and the cables are kinda old by now, as far as changing out the terminals is that hard to do? looks pretty simple i may do that friday if the car holds up until then...if i get more corrosion quickly in a few days time what does that mean? bad cable? alternator? battery? __________________ http://www.myspace.com/4652469

03-12-2008, 07:17 PM	#24
86sleeper Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: deer park Posts: 2,501	I would change out the whole cable and not just the terminal. if there is corrosion on the terminal, there is corrosion in the cable as well. You can get by without doing it, but it is a good suggestion. __________________ MIKE '86 GT:high 12's Sold '01 GT:low 11's for sale

03-12-2008, 07:19 PM	#25
ImpactStang I think he likes you... Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Antonio Posts: 3,619	is that an all day thing? __________________ http://www.myspace.com/4652469

03-12-2008, 08:07 PM	#26
86sleeper Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: deer park Posts: 2,501	on a 4.6 it can be. If you just cut back on your current cable enough to remove the obvious corrosion, you should be fine. __________________ MIKE '86 GT:high 12's Sold '01 GT:low 11's for sale

03-12-2008, 08:51 PM	#27
hypnawtic101 Computer Technician Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Antonio Posts: 521	this kinda sounds like the issue u had wiked...

03-12-2008, 10:02 PM	#28
96greengt LOL @ your mom Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.E. SA Posts: 8,745	The cables on the 4.6 are a PITA to do if you have never done one before. When putting the battery back in and restarting, the PCM was essentially reset, so it has to learn idle all over again. Normally, a few miles of driving cures the idle concern. As far as protecting the battery, if you have Vaseline (and I know you do Phil............ dirty dirty boy), you can smear the terminals and posts to inhibit future corrosion. I'd run the car to the vato guys and see if they can run an alternator test on it as well to verify your alternator is still within its limits. __________________ Built 00 Windsor engine, .20 over, 11.6:1cr, fully ported heads, Hardballer intake w/cooling mod, Scat rods, Probe pistons, Cobra crank, tri-metal Clevite race bearings, VT Stage 2 N/A cams, adjustable cam gears, Canton windage tray, MMR oil pump, Cobra pick up, 75MM Accufab t-body, Dragon plenum, JLT CAI, 24# injectors, Bassani mid lengths, mufflers & O/R X,255lph fuel pump, BBK FPR, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, AJE K-member, ARP hardware everywhere, X-Cal SCT custom tuned, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, polygraphite motor mounts, over 300+ RWHP & 320+ TQ

03-12-2008, 10:37 PM	#30
96greengt LOL @ your mom Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.E. SA Posts: 8,745	Not gonna comment any more on what you did the other day with the anal lube. Anyway, warning signs, battery light turns on, slow cranking, or even clicking, but it is too late by then. Or, it just up and craps out, no warning. __________________ Built 00 Windsor engine, .20 over, 11.6:1cr, fully ported heads, Hardballer intake w/cooling mod, Scat rods, Probe pistons, Cobra crank, tri-metal Clevite race bearings, VT Stage 2 N/A cams, adjustable cam gears, Canton windage tray, MMR oil pump, Cobra pick up, 75MM Accufab t-body, Dragon plenum, JLT CAI, 24# injectors, Bassani mid lengths, mufflers & O/R X,255lph fuel pump, BBK FPR, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, AJE K-member, ARP hardware everywhere, X-Cal SCT custom tuned, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, polygraphite motor mounts, over 300+ RWHP & 320+ TQ

03-13-2008, 07:53 PM	#32
4.6stanger Finally in the 12sec club. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lufkin, Texas Posts: 2,843	Just curious do ya have a voltmeter? __________________ NA 2v GT=12.61@107.1

03-13-2008, 11:08 PM	#33
ImpactStang I think he likes you... Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Antonio Posts: 3,619	nope, at least not one im aware of, why __________________ http://www.myspace.com/4652469

03-15-2008, 10:03 PM	#34
96greengt LOL @ your mom Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.E. SA Posts: 8,745	You get it fixed yet... I am off for a while, maybe you can bring it to me and I figure it out for you. __________________ Built 00 Windsor engine, .20 over, 11.6:1cr, fully ported heads, Hardballer intake w/cooling mod, Scat rods, Probe pistons, Cobra crank, tri-metal Clevite race bearings, VT Stage 2 N/A cams, adjustable cam gears, Canton windage tray, MMR oil pump, Cobra pick up, 75MM Accufab t-body, Dragon plenum, JLT CAI, 24# injectors, Bassani mid lengths, mufflers & O/R X,255lph fuel pump, BBK FPR, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, AJE K-member, ARP hardware everywhere, X-Cal SCT custom tuned, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, polygraphite motor mounts, over 300+ RWHP & 320+ TQ

03-15-2008, 10:07 PM	#35
ImpactStang I think he likes you... Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Antonio Posts: 3,619	yeah its running, drove it to work today and thursday, seems to be fine...did sputter a bit just now while waiting to turn but didnt shut off. When I had taken the IAC off i noticed some gunk in the throttle body so thats something i know i gotta work on when i get a chance... __________________ http://www.myspace.com/4652469

03-15-2008, 10:10 PM	#36
96greengt LOL @ your mom Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.E. SA Posts: 8,745	Doesn't hurt to clean the TB and blade at all, find an old tooth brush, spary the inside with that same cleaner, brush it 360* and the back of the blade then spray it again for good measure. it will take a sec to start, but it is cheap maintenance. __________________ Built 00 Windsor engine, .20 over, 11.6:1cr, fully ported heads, Hardballer intake w/cooling mod, Scat rods, Probe pistons, Cobra crank, tri-metal Clevite race bearings, VT Stage 2 N/A cams, adjustable cam gears, Canton windage tray, MMR oil pump, Cobra pick up, 75MM Accufab t-body, Dragon plenum, JLT CAI, 24# injectors, Bassani mid lengths, mufflers & O/R X,255lph fuel pump, BBK FPR, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, AJE K-member, ARP hardware everywhere, X-Cal SCT custom tuned, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, polygraphite motor mounts, over 300+ RWHP & 320+ TQ

03-15-2008, 10:12 PM	#37
ImpactStang I think he likes you... Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Antonio Posts: 3,619	yeah ford it always trying to charge me like $90 to do it fuck that, i know i need to swap my power steering fluid out too but i doubt that would cause any sputtering... __________________ http://www.myspace.com/4652469

03-15-2008, 10:14 PM	#38
96greengt LOL @ your mom Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.E. SA Posts: 8,745	Nope.. but you can bring it to me and we can see what it is, maybe just something simple like bigdrumma had on his car... __________________ Built 00 Windsor engine, .20 over, 11.6:1cr, fully ported heads, Hardballer intake w/cooling mod, Scat rods, Probe pistons, Cobra crank, tri-metal Clevite race bearings, VT Stage 2 N/A cams, adjustable cam gears, Canton windage tray, MMR oil pump, Cobra pick up, 75MM Accufab t-body, Dragon plenum, JLT CAI, 24# injectors, Bassani mid lengths, mufflers & O/R X,255lph fuel pump, BBK FPR, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, AJE K-member, ARP hardware everywhere, X-Cal SCT custom tuned, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, polygraphite motor mounts, over 300+ RWHP & 320+ TQ

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03-15-2008, 10:16 PM	#39
ImpactStang I think he likes you... Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Antonio Posts: 3,619	true...you gonna be busy during the week? im not sure what days im gonna have off but i can maybe swing by __________________ http://www.myspace.com/4652469

03-15-2008, 10:28 PM	#40
96greengt LOL @ your mom Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.E. SA Posts: 8,745	I am off for a while... possibly til the middle of next month.. lol __________________ Built 00 Windsor engine, .20 over, 11.6:1cr, fully ported heads, Hardballer intake w/cooling mod, Scat rods, Probe pistons, Cobra crank, tri-metal Clevite race bearings, VT Stage 2 N/A cams, adjustable cam gears, Canton windage tray, MMR oil pump, Cobra pick up, 75MM Accufab t-body, Dragon plenum, JLT CAI, 24# injectors, Bassani mid lengths, mufflers & O/R X,255lph fuel pump, BBK FPR, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, AJE K-member, ARP hardware everywhere, X-Cal SCT custom tuned, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, polygraphite motor mounts, over 300+ RWHP & 320+ TQ