Diablosport Predator - Page 2

myblack93gt · 10-19-2007, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 95 GTS

i have known guys who blindly ran 7 and 9 degrees and their cars picked up after being told to back it to 4-5

Myself asnd others have seen a general condition where there are improvements as you increase to 5 and nothing after that. not necessarily that there is a loss, but no improvement. You dont want to get a bad tank of gas on a hot day and ping around town or put your car in limp mode running 19 degrees of initial timing

it really depends on what mods you have on the car. a maf can really change stuff, as can some cold airs

Oh! I thought you meant my shit was going to blow up soon I was aware of the dangers you listed! Dont scare me like that lol

**AdRock** · 10-19-2007, 02:30 AM

He wasn't necessarily trying to scare you, however, shit could blow up. If you have too much timing in it and it pings it can easily burn a nice little hole in the piston or worse.

4.6stanger · 10-19-2007, 07:55 AM

so i adjusted mine to what i said 4 and 5, and well honestly it feels better in response and better pull. So i guess ishould stay here for a while, so if i wanna go back to 87 octane do i just go back to factory tune? and with degrees im runnin does that equal up to 9 only or what?

FordGT08 · 10-19-2007, 11:39 AM

any advice for me i have a 00 manual with shorty headers, bbk cold air, 75mm acuufab tb mac x-pipe with 2.5 all the way back with flows

4.6stanger · 10-19-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT08

any advice for me i have a 00 manual with shorty headers, bbk cold air, 75mm acuufab tb mac x-pipe with 2.5 all the way back with flows

try what i did then proceed up, im currently at 4 degrees at 2-4K and 5 Degrees at 4-7k and it feels pretty good, i might try 1 or 2 more degrees tomorrow and see how that feels.

myblack93gt · 10-20-2007, 01:25 AM

I reduced mine and kicks ass off the line now! But, it took away some of my top end! That 6.0 GTO still couldnt hang though lol!

y2kGT · 10-20-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.6stanger

well see mine isnt dyno tuned and when you get it dyno tuned dont they also up the fuel? ....13.6 ? not trying to talk shit but i thought it'd do better? considering we almost have the same mods? But i guess im bout to go out and try 4 dgrees on 2-4k and 5 degrees on 4-7k and let yall kno how it felt

Well my car had 130k miles and it was on a shitty day.. also my motor just blew out not long ago so it wasnt running at its top par...

y2kGT · 10-20-2007, 02:33 PM

also after that track run I have raced a cobra and an camaro ss and both of them got beat. I beat the cobra from 40ish to 120 by about a car and a half and the camaro was about the same...

4.6stanger · 10-20-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by y2kGT

also after that track run I have raced a cobra and an camaro ss and both of them got beat. I beat the cobra from 40ish to 120 by about a car and a half and the camaro was about the same...

No shit!! Damn thumbs up!

FordGT08 · 10-31-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 4.6stanger

try what i did then proceed up, im currently at 4 degrees at 2-4K and 5 Degrees at 4-7k and it feels pretty good, i might try 1 or 2 more degrees tomorrow and see how that feels.

any other little advice that will help but not blow up my engine????

y2kGT · 10-31-2007, 02:23 PM

get it dyno tuned...every car is diffrent... less time like 4 will give you more response but not necessarilly more power, just like if you had a dist. car and bumped the timing up it feels sluggish at first but when it takes off it really takes off...my best advice is go get it tune that way you have th best of both worlds, more response and power!!!

4.6stanger · 11-01-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by y2kGT

get it dyno tuned...every car is diffrent... less time like 4 will give you more response but not necessarilly more power, just like if you had a dist. car and bumped the timing up it feels sluggish at first but when it takes off it really takes off...my best advice is go get it tune that way you have th best of both worlds, more response and power!!!

+1, i would like to get mine dyno tuned, but the place here in my town charges out the ass, hopefully next year ill head out to Houston to get it tuned!!

myblack93gt · 11-01-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.6stanger

+1, i would like to get mine dyno tuned, but the place here in my town charges out the ass, hopefully next year ill head out to Houston to get it tuned!!

Go to Strictly Perfomance! Its the same place y2kgt got his car tuned! You already have a predator, so Richard will only charge you between 200 and 300

4.6stanger · 11-01-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by myblack93gt

Go to Strictly Perfomance! Its the same place y2kgt got his car tuned! You already have a predator, so Richard will only charge you between 200 and 300

Thanx dude, ima have to keep that in mind and get more details from ya'll when it comes down to it.

myblack93gt · 11-02-2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 4.6stanger

Thanx dude, ima have to keep that in mind and get more details from ya'll when it comes down to it.

No problem man, just hit me or him up when you get ready!

stangfreak · 01-12-2008, 01:58 AM

I agree with 95 GTS. keep it at 5.
In general the 4.6 can handle 20-24 degress advance, but internal mods, along with fuel and great exhaust scavageing is needed to see any real power gains. also, if you did nothing to really raise your compression and going by your list you did not, keep at 89 octane and run the race fuel on race day. the higher octane keeps from pre detonating your fuel when your on the power stroke, thats it. high compression motors and or forced air need it due to intake heat. hence the intercooler. (for the basics) if you are needing help with a tune, use a scan tool or a data logger. what ever you do, don't guess.

10-19-2007, 02:30 AM	#22
AdRock I am the Great Cornholio, give me all your TP Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: On The Move Posts: 5,126 Trader Rating: (5)	He wasn't necessarily trying to scare you, however, shit could blow up. If you have too much timing in it and it pings it can easily burn a nice little hole in the piston or worse. __________________ '02 Stang GT Just cause you don't understand what's going on ...don't mean it don't make no sense And just cause you don't like it,...don't mean it aint no good And let me tell you something Before you go taking a walk in my world,...you better take a look at the real world Cause this aint no Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Can you say "feel like shit?"Yea maybe sometimes I do feel like shit I aint happy about it, but I'd rather feel like shit than be full of shit! And if I offended you, Oh I'm sorry, But, maybe you need to be offended But here's my apology and one more thing........Fuck you! Cause you can't bring me down

10-19-2007, 07:55 AM	#23
4.6stanger Three-hundredths of a second away from it!!!! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lufkin, Texas Posts: 2,498 Trader Rating: (2)	so i adjusted mine to what i said 4 and 5, and well honestly it feels better in response and better pull. So i guess ishould stay here for a while, so if i wanna go back to 87 octane do i just go back to factory tune? and with degrees im runnin does that equal up to 9 only or what? __________________ 2002 Mustang GT-K&N FIPK, Accufab Plenum/ 75mm T-body, Diablosport Predator, 4.10s, Pro 5.0 shifter, Bassani O/r x-pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, Steeda pulleys, Mickey Thompson ET streets, Moser axles, Eibach Sportlines, Hotchkis U/Lca's, 180* t-stat_ best e.t 13.02@103!!!! Soon to come: Weight reduction, weld pro-stars and fox springs.

10-20-2007, 02:33 PM	#28
y2kGT Is that a mach? Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 619 Trader Rating: (0)	also after that track run I have raced a cobra and an camaro ss and both of them got beat. I beat the cobra from 40ish to 120 by about a car and a half and the camaro was about the same... __________________ Y2kGT-Just another 4-6 1995GTVERT-DD 1989LXVERT-waiting to be reborn!

10-31-2007, 02:23 PM	#31
y2kGT Is that a mach? Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 619 Trader Rating: (0)	get it dyno tuned...every car is diffrent... less time like 4 will give you more response but not necessarilly more power, just like if you had a dist. car and bumped the timing up it feels sluggish at first but when it takes off it really takes off...my best advice is go get it tune that way you have th best of both worlds, more response and power!!! __________________ Y2kGT-Just another 4-6 1995GTVERT-DD 1989LXVERT-waiting to be reborn!

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10-19-2007, 11:39 AM	#24
FordGT08 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Antonio Posts: 1,213 Trader Rating: (0)	any advice for me i have a 00 manual with shorty headers, bbk cold air, 75mm acuufab tb mac x-pipe with 2.5 all the way back with flows

10-20-2007, 01:25 AM	#26
myblack93gt Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 703 Trader Rating: (0)	I reduced mine and kicks ass off the line now! But, it took away some of my top end! That 6.0 GTO still couldnt hang though lol!

01-12-2008, 01:58 AM	#36
stangfreak It's LOUD but YOU looked! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 643 Trader Rating: (1)	I agree with 95 GTS. keep it at 5. In general the 4.6 can handle 20-24 degress advance, but internal mods, along with fuel and great exhaust scavageing is needed to see any real power gains. also, if you did nothing to really raise your compression and going by your list you did not, keep at 89 octane and run the race fuel on race day. the higher octane keeps from pre detonating your fuel when your on the power stroke, thats it. high compression motors and or forced air need it due to intake heat. hence the intercooler. (for the basics) if you are needing help with a tune, use a scan tool or a data logger. what ever you do, don't guess.