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Old 06-23-2008, 08:17 AM   #1
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hand full of carb-conversion questions

so i've decided to go carb'd on my set up due to money, i'm going to be running a vic.jr. intake and a 600dp holley to start with because that's stuff that i got in trade... and since carb'd stuff is so much cheaper, i dont mind doing some trial and error.

my question is, what is gonna be the cheapest and easiest way to do the fuel system? one guy told me to get a regulator that will turn down my current fuel pressure to the 6-7psi range.... flare my stock line to mount the regulator, and go from there... the reason he said this, is because i have a brand new walbro 255 pump in my car...

the other option would be to get something like a holley blue, modify my tank pick up, and run a whole new fuel system... which in the end will mean more money and work... so do you guys think the regulator idea is a good one? anyone have experience with this?

also, what's my best bet on a distributor set up? this guy is selling a pro comp dist. and i've got "second dibs" after his broke ass best friend (so i think i'll get it) but if i dont, what do you guys suggest? unless i HAVE to, i dont want to buy an msd box yet (if i get that pro comp dist., i will)

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I would say buy a sump conversion from summit and have it welded in your stock tank. run the holley blue pump. I think trying to run your current fuel system with a regulator would work but depending on how much power you'll make depends whether you need to sump your tank etc. thesource has his fuel system listed in his build thread for both his coupe and his 94 which both have been converted to carb so he has a good reference for a fuel system.
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:43 AM   #3
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I would say buy a sump conversion from summit and have it welded in your stock tank. run the holley blue pump. I think trying to run your current fuel system with a regulator would work but depending on how much power you'll make depends whether you need to sump your tank etc. thesource has his fuel system listed in his build thread for both his coupe and his 94 which both have been converted to carb so he has a good reference for a fuel system.
mike's car is not a street car... and the other one is border line i'd say... the power i'll be making will not require a sump. if it does, it'll get a fuel cell later on, because i dont have time to take my tank to someone, let them keep it for x days, etc etc, plus, my car is low enough as it is, for street driving in n. texas, i dont want anything un necessary sticking out under the car.

i know, the rear axle is lower, but up here, you never know.
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Actually my 94 is going to be a street car and I needed a large tank for driving so I opted to keep the stock tank and have it sumped . I'll snap some pics of it for you .

Also I think that Vic Jr. might not be the best choice for a small engine like yours on the street . I think its going to be very lazy down low . Not trying to sell you the intake I have but something like it would be ideal versus the Jr.
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Actually my 94 is going to be a street car and I needed a large tank for driving so I opted to keep the stock tank and have it sumped . I'll snap some pics of it for you .

Also I think that Vic Jr. might not be the best choice for a small engine like yours on the street . I think its going to be very lazy down low . Not trying to sell you the intake I have but something like it would be ideal versus the Jr.
i'm also picking up a performer for about nothing, so i'll have choices.

my main reason for not wanting to sump w/ a blue pump is that my 255 isn't even a month old....
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i'm also picking up a performer for about nothing, so i'll have choices.

my main reason for not wanting to sump w/ a blue pump is that my 255 isn't even a month old....
But with a 255 pump , you will need a return style regulator that can be adjusted way down to around 5-6 psi . Mallory as well as Aeromotive makes one but they cost as much or more than the $100.00 255 pump you have . I'd sell off the 255 pump along with all your other EFI stuff and just build the fuel system for a carbed application to begin with . There are several ways of doing it from very cheap and basic to high $$$$ .
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and then i'll need to buy a new pump as well... i need about $120 to finnish up the fuel system with a return style regulator, or i will need to spend money on a new pump, line for th ewhole car, i'll have to modify my fuel pick up, or have a sump welded in..... i've already gotten everything sold except that pump i have... other than the fact that i have to buy that regulator, is there anything wrong with this idea?
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No , as long as you keep the fuel pressure under about 8 or 9 psi , you should be fine .
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No , as long as you keep the fuel pressure under about 8 or 9 psi , you should be fine .
ok. the way i see it, if this regulator is the only major thing i need to buy for the fuel system, i'm ok with it... how about the distributor thing? if this deal on the procomp falls through, i'm gonna need an inexpensive alternative
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You can use one from an 85 or 86 auto (don't remember which year) that was setup for carb with a steel gear on it . You will need some kind of ignition system like an MSD or Crane for it to work .
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ok so whatever dist. i can find.. i have a 94 dist so i have the gear... hey, is there anyway to make that work? prolly not 'cause it's supposed to havea tfi on it isn't it?
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Yeah that distributor doesn't have any type of advancement in it since the computer does that on efi cars .
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Yeah that distributor doesn't have any type of advancement in it since the computer does that on efi cars .
damn... i guess for strictly race duty, i could use it, but i wanna street drive it...
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Just get yourself a Pro Comp off of Ebay and be done with it . I've used them before and they are decent , especially for what you plan on doing with it .
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85 5.0 distributor is what you need.
Last year for carb,first year for roller
cam,will come with steel gear but you
must tell them.Just bought 1 from OR
last week for the wagon.
Aeromotive 13202 or 13204 is a boost referenced
regulator(not that you need the reference,it can be
plugged off) and it will go down to 5psi with a efi pump
BUT YOU MUST RUN A RETURN LINE BIGGER THAN THE FEED
for it to work properly.
If you go this route you will have to adapt your efi line to the regulator
and that is another ball of wax for you to contend with.
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85 5.0 distributor is what you need.
Last year for carb,first year for roller
cam,will come with steel gear but you
must tell them.Just bought 1 from OR
last week for the wagon.
Aeromotive 13202 or 13204 is a boost referenced
regulator(not that you need the reference,it can be
plugged off) and it will go down to 5psi with a efi pump
BUT YOU MUST RUN A RETURN LINE BIGGER THAN THE FEED
for it to work properly.
If you go this route you will have to adapt your efi line to the regulator
and that is another ball of wax for you to contend with.
i'm not worried about adapting the efi line to the regulator... so i have to run a BIGGER return line?? wow that sucks... oh well i can figure something out on that. i have a steel distributor drive gear, so i dont give a damn if the distributor has a plastic, bronze, shit formed, what ever gear... but i probably am gonna get a pro comp... now i just need to line up a control box and i'll be good to go except for the misc. accesory brackets.
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Pro Comp makes a box as well like the 6A or AL .
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Pro Comp makes a box as well like the 6A or AL .
yea, but i can probably get a used msd for cheaper, the dist, is harder to find used.
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For cheap use a blue wire relief Duraspark box.
The 85 distributor is a plug and play with it and
the intermediate harness.
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blue wire relief duraspark box? where would i get that? and by the time i buy all that, will it be over $200? 'cause i'm sure i can get a procomp dizzy with a used msd box for that...
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