I need help with Head Gaskets

05SILVERGT S/C · 03-05-2008, 10:04 PM

I need help with picking head gaskets. I Heard that fel pro gaskets are the best. and maybe even copper ones.

here is what my car has

302 - Supercharged
CNC Ported E7 "Powerheads"
Crane 1.6 roller rocker
Crane stud conversion kit
New valve springs - good to .600 lift
Typhoon Intake
75mm TB and EGR spacer
Probe Forged Pistons
APR Main Bolts
Windage Tray
Jay Allen Custom Cam
Electric Fan with DCC Controller
BBK 1 5/8 shortys
UPR o/r X pipe
Flowmaster Super 40's

Please Help the engine being taken apart as i post this.

**thesource** · 03-05-2008, 10:19 PM

Depending on how much boost you are making , I would go with the Felpro 1011-2's .

**12second5.0** · 03-05-2008, 10:20 PM

I have the FRPP graphite's on mine.

**thesource** · 03-05-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 12second5.0

I have the FRPP graphite's on mine.

I am pretty sure those are the Fel Pro PT9333-1 gaskets and they are good too . I have them on my 410 W .

Razor81 · 03-05-2008, 10:27 PM

Does anyone here run the cometic head gaskets?? I ran a set on a few pontiac motors a while back. They are pricey but you can get them in all different sizes and they are great. Im new to ford so not sure what everyone runs but just a suggestion!

**12second5.0** · 03-05-2008, 10:32 PM

I heard good things about the Cometic gaskets. Although i don't know anyone who runs them personally.

**Sonic Blue 85** · 03-05-2008, 10:38 PM

Head studs and having the heads O ringed is a good idea when running boost. I have blown a big section out of a new gasket when the heads were O ringed. We had an intresting light show under the hood that night that could be seen through the opening in the rear of the cowl. I use the copper gaskets for my car, but I would not suggest using them with out O ringing the heads. I have heard and seen many people have good results with the factor graphite gaskets which all of Ford's gaskets are made by Felpro. I used only the 1011-2 felpro gaskets before I had my heads O ringed. I have also heard that the Cometic gaskets are good, but I can tell you from experiance that stamped steel gaskets require a very slick head and block surface, Ford use to tell us if you could feel any machining or tool marks by running a finger nail over the surface, it was too corse, it would not seal. I had already found this out the hard way on a few 4.6s and other engines that use stamped steel head gaskets. I would either O ring the heads and get some head studs or get use to changing head gaskets.

05SILVERGT S/C · 03-05-2008, 11:44 PM

i think car is pushing 8lb of boost. would the Felpro 1011-2's .be the best choice and where do i get them.

**thesource** · 03-05-2008, 11:52 PM

Yeah they should work fine as long as you don't go lean on the tune . Kotzur racing heads or Mission should have them in stock .

Allnuts · 03-06-2008, 12:04 AM

My theory was I rather pop a gasket than fry a ring, thats why I never used any special types of gasket. It just depends how well your car is tuned and if you know how to work on your own car. Felpro kick ass.

05SILVERGT S/C · 03-06-2008, 12:17 AM

i wish i did. To tell you the truth i have never attempted to work on cars. i just buy them fixed and then sell them when i get tried of them, just like this one. it will be for sell when i get done. looking for a coupe. i have never owned one so i will look for one.

Allnuts · 03-06-2008, 12:22 AM

If thats the case, then I wouldn't pour much money into head gaskets

05SILVERGT S/C · 03-06-2008, 12:37 AM

well, the way i look at it i might as well do it right while im there so the person that buys it can have just enough fun as i did!!! this car drives great!!!! paul set this car up right.

Allnuts · 03-06-2008, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05SILVERGT S/C

well, the way i look at it i might as well do it right while im there so the person that buys it can have just enough fun as i did!!! this car drives great!!!! paul set this car up right.

True.

HISS1998 · 03-06-2008, 09:39 AM

I run a multi layer steel gasket, figure if its good enough for nascar its good enough for me. Cometics have good combustion seal, but heard from a few people running them that they develop coolant leaks.

TheBocSez · 03-06-2008, 10:19 AM

Sorry to hear about that, Im suprised a gasket gave out on your. I used the Felpro 9333's. They are great gaskets and come recommeded by people running more boost than the vert. I would either stick with them and switch to head studs instead of the ARP bolts that are there now. Before them, I had the felpro 1011's I believe and had one blow because of fire ring seperation.

txlen · 03-06-2008, 03:52 PM

I ran the Felpro 9333's also..i heard a little trick to was to paint them with high heat silver paint and let it dry, which i did and ARP studded the block, i had no issues whatsoever with that setup...

95 GTS · 03-06-2008, 05:52 PM

its nice that you have iron heads in this case. I would just run the felpros with that level of boost.

are you shooting for around 350-380 at the wheels? you should be in the neighborhood on a safe tune

05SILVERGT S/C · 03-06-2008, 06:02 PM

FOUND OUT IT WAS THE INTAKE GASKET!!!! OH WELL THE HEADS ARE OFF!!!

03-05-2008, 10:04 PM	#1
05SILVERGT S/C Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SAN ANTONIO TX Posts: 198 Trader Rating: (0)	I need help with Head Gaskets I need help with picking head gaskets. I Heard that fel pro gaskets are the best. and maybe even copper ones. here is what my car has 302 - Supercharged CNC Ported E7 "Powerheads" Crane 1.6 roller rocker Crane stud conversion kit New valve springs - good to .600 lift Typhoon Intake 75mm TB and EGR spacer Probe Forged Pistons APR Main Bolts Windage Tray Jay Allen Custom Cam Electric Fan with DCC Controller BBK 1 5/8 shortys UPR o/r X pipe Flowmaster Super 40's Please Help the engine being taken apart as i post this.

03-05-2008, 10:19 PM	#2
thesource LSS Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: in a hole building transmissions Posts: 3,503 Trader Rating: (13)	Depending on how much boost you are making , I would go with the Felpro 1011-2's . __________________ Texas Motorsports Myspace Texas Motorsports Photobucket

03-05-2008, 10:20 PM	#3
12second5.0 Sie lieben, mich zu hassen! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Marion,Texas Posts: 9,015 Trader Rating: (0)	I have the FRPP graphite's on mine. __________________

03-05-2008, 10:32 PM	#6
12second5.0 Sie lieben, mich zu hassen! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Marion,Texas Posts: 9,015 Trader Rating: (0)	I heard good things about the Cometic gaskets. Although i don't know anyone who runs them personally. __________________

03-05-2008, 10:38 PM	#7
Sonic Blue 85 LSS Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Braunfels Posts: 396 Trader Rating: (1)	Head studs and having the heads O ringed is a good idea when running boost. I have blown a big section out of a new gasket when the heads were O ringed. We had an intresting light show under the hood that night that could be seen through the opening in the rear of the cowl. I use the copper gaskets for my car, but I would not suggest using them with out O ringing the heads. I have heard and seen many people have good results with the factor graphite gaskets which all of Ford's gaskets are made by Felpro. I used only the 1011-2 felpro gaskets before I had my heads O ringed. I have also heard that the Cometic gaskets are good, but I can tell you from experiance that stamped steel gaskets require a very slick head and block surface, Ford use to tell us if you could feel any machining or tool marks by running a finger nail over the surface, it was too corse, it would not seal. I had already found this out the hard way on a few 4.6s and other engines that use stamped steel head gaskets. I would either O ring the heads and get some head studs or get use to changing head gaskets. __________________ My car is an '85 sonic blue coupe with 302 bored and stroked to 364, Ported Twisted Wedge heads and a BXR intake, A9M ECM with a Tweecer, C4 with trans brake, Hoosier 275/60/15 drag radials, no power adders. The car is still street driven, with a best of 10.21 at 131 mph with a 1.51 60' spinning lightly. With this combo it made a best of 460 hp and 410 lbs of torque at the wheels.

03-05-2008, 10:27 PM	#5
Razor81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: sa Posts: 164 Trader Rating: (0)	Does anyone here run the cometic head gaskets?? I ran a set on a few pontiac motors a while back. They are pricey but you can get them in all different sizes and they are great. Im new to ford so not sure what everyone runs but just a suggestion!

03-05-2008, 11:44 PM	#8
05SILVERGT S/C Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SAN ANTONIO TX Posts: 198 Trader Rating: (0)	i think car is pushing 8lb of boost. would the Felpro 1011-2's .be the best choice and where do i get them.

03-05-2008, 11:52 PM	#9
thesource LSS Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: in a hole building transmissions Posts: 3,503 Trader Rating: (13)	Yeah they should work fine as long as you don't go lean on the tune . Kotzur racing heads or Mission should have them in stock . __________________ Texas Motorsports Myspace Texas Motorsports Photobucket

03-06-2008, 12:04 AM	#10
Allnuts LoneStarStangs Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio,Tx Posts: 704 Trader Rating: (-1)	My theory was I rather pop a gasket than fry a ring, thats why I never used any special types of gasket. It just depends how well your car is tuned and if you know how to work on your own car. Felpro kick ass.

03-06-2008, 12:17 AM	#11
05SILVERGT S/C Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SAN ANTONIO TX Posts: 198 Trader Rating: (0)	i wish i did. To tell you the truth i have never attempted to work on cars. i just buy them fixed and then sell them when i get tried of them, just like this one. it will be for sell when i get done. looking for a coupe. i have never owned one so i will look for one.

03-06-2008, 12:22 AM	#12
Allnuts LoneStarStangs Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio,Tx Posts: 704 Trader Rating: (-1)	If thats the case, then I wouldn't pour much money into head gaskets

03-06-2008, 12:37 AM	#13
05SILVERGT S/C Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SAN ANTONIO TX Posts: 198 Trader Rating: (0)	well, the way i look at it i might as well do it right while im there so the person that buys it can have just enough fun as i did!!! this car drives great!!!! paul set this car up right.

03-06-2008, 09:39 AM	#15
HISS1998 Tattoed White Trash Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, Tx. Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0)	I run a multi layer steel gasket, figure if its good enough for nascar its good enough for me. Cometics have good combustion seal, but heard from a few people running them that they develop coolant leaks. __________________ 1991 Calypso Green Coupe-306 Nitrous Motor Best time 11.59, mph 114, 60 ft 1.67-Kaboom!

03-06-2008, 10:19 AM	#16
TheBocSez Professional Leash Holder Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Converse, TX Posts: 1,085 Trader Rating: (1)	Sorry to hear about that, Im suprised a gasket gave out on your. I used the Felpro 9333's. They are great gaskets and come recommeded by people running more boost than the vert. I would either stick with them and switch to head studs instead of the ARP bolts that are there now. Before them, I had the felpro 1011's I believe and had one blow because of fire ring seperation.

03-06-2008, 03:52 PM	#17
txlen Jus Workin Away !!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,795 Trader Rating: (2)	I ran the Felpro 9333's also..i heard a little trick to was to paint them with high heat silver paint and let it dry, which i did and ARP studded the block, i had no issues whatsoever with that setup...

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03-06-2008, 05:52 PM	#18
95 GTS Back in the saddle again Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,723 Trader Rating: (0)	its nice that you have iron heads in this case. I would just run the felpros with that level of boost. are you shooting for around 350-380 at the wheels? you should be in the neighborhood on a safe tune __________________ 2007 Reflex Silver Wolfsburg Jetta - new hotness 1995 Canary Yellow GTS - Sold 12.81@106.2 w/1.80 60' Boltons/E303 + 3100 lbs + M&H 246 HP/ 290 TQ 12.57 @ 109.21 w/1.76 60' Boltons/GT40Ps/XE270 + 3240 lbs + 555Rs 295 HP / 321 TQ

03-06-2008, 06:02 PM	#19
05SILVERGT S/C Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SAN ANTONIO TX Posts: 198 Trader Rating: (0)	FOUND OUT IT WAS THE INTAKE GASKET!!!! OH WELL THE HEADS ARE OFF!!!