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Old 06-23-2008, 09:00 AM   #1
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is this right??

we went yesterday to test a buddies car, is a 1999 GT vert. with boltons
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to a best of 14.15@??? (i love mexican tracks where no 60' or Trap Speed is given)
would pulleys and tune make a big difference?
he was running the nittos on 10lbs 'cause traction was not there,
let me know what you think
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:44 AM   #3
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10lbs of air is TOO low. I was runnin between 14-18 on mine. With pulleys my car only gained MAYBE a tenth. ANd are ya meanin a dyno tune?? With my predator i added with my 3.73s and i noticed 2 tenths with those mods. Damn that sux bout the 60 ft and trap, whats the deal with that??
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well just to see if he got the speed for high 13s when we race (i got a coupe with the same mods) i win by a car so what would be my time? 13.80? i was expecting a low 13 to get the high 12 time slip with slicks,
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that sounds about right
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Old 06-23-2008, 06:36 PM   #6
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well just to see if he got the speed for high 13s when we race (i got a coupe with the same mods) i win by a car so what would be my time? 13.80? i was expecting a low 13 to get the high 12 time slip with slicks,
Your coupe ought to be a high 13 sec car then, But then again have you raced your car at the track or are yall goin bye street racing....cause street racin is really inaccurate to try to guesstimate peoples times. It really blows that he doesnt know what his 60ft and trap are.... since knowin those numbers would pinpoint what hes doin wrong or what he needs to improve on.
PS dont go bye a gtechs times... Since in my experiences with them they would always give me faster times then my car really was. Trust its embarassing proclaming you have a 13.40 car(according to gtech) and when you hit the track one of your buddies smokes you in his 13.30 doped up gsr civic hatchback and your stang goes a measly 13.96 LMAO!! It was total embarassement!!
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my gues sis he wasn't launching right. I bet he bogged with all that tire. NExt time tell him to leave at 4500 at least and let the sticky tires work for him.
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i drove it too and i have compliments of how i drive (like i stole it lol) but when i hitted 2nd with powershift it got tail happy no traction so i guess we need to test this car on a real track
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the track prolly wasnt prepped well, are you sure you were in the groove??
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we went yesterday to test a buddies car, is a 1999 GT vert. with boltons
Longtube headers, o/r X pipe, Flows,
75mm Professional Products throttle body & plenum
BBk Cold air intake
Nitto Extreme Drag 315/40/17 & 3.73
to a best of 14.15@??? (i love mexican tracks where no 60' or Trap Speed is given)
would pulleys and tune make a big difference?
he was running the nittos on 10lbs 'cause traction was not there,
let me know what you think
1. nittos should never be run on 10 pounds. 15-18 with the 17 inchers (14 is too low and they cup)
2. nittos dont gurantee you traction, so flooring it off the line is not always an option and is the reason your friend cant drive and ran a 14. Hold revs, let out clutch and apply throttle as it learches forward. Dont apply it all instantly.

3. of course pulleys and a tune will make a difference. I am surprised he doesnt have a tune right now just to get the car to run ok with the LTs

4. with no trap speed I cant really tell how much is the car and how much is a driving issue.

I'll tell you with even the worse conditions with bald nittos and "traction wasnt there", with imports dragging water across the line on a cold night" I would still pulll 2.0 60s semi sideways through first, powershift the 1-2 and run a 12.8-13.0 at 110.
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i drove it too and i have compliments of how i drive (like i stole it lol) but when i hitted 2nd with powershift it got tail happy no traction so i guess we need to test this car on a real track
what is a mexican track and what is a real track?

that shit aint hooking with 10 psi... only the outside of the tire was touchin the ground
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we tried on 32, 25, 17, and end up in 10lbs and it started to hook a bit there, other fact that i just was informed is that he heated or cut the springs to lower the car, that kills weight transfer on a launch affecting traction right?
i'm gettin my car fixed of 2nd gear and when it comes out pulleys and tune would be a most, i will run the car at Edinburg and let you know the results, i really really hope they are better, i almost traded my car for a 99 Camaro but backed out, we are called 14s around, thats not nice (lots of ford converted chevy fans)
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Yeah if i were you guys id go out to another track where they provide 60ft and trap speeds, and then we can pinpoint on what to improve on. I honestly think that vert shoulda gone around 13.50-13.80.
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we tried on 32, 25, 17, and end up in 10lbs and it started to hook a bit there, other fact that i just was informed is that he heated or cut the springs to lower the car, that kills weight transfer on a launch affecting traction right?
i'm gettin my car fixed of 2nd gear and when it comes out pulleys and tune would be a most, i will run the car at Edinburg and let you know the results, i really really hope they are better, i almost traded my car for a 99 Camaro but backed out, we are called 14s around, thats not nice (lots of ford converted chevy fans)

you guys should both buy 99 camaro Autos, put LTs, lid and a stall and have a solid 12 second car.
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i ran a 13.9 in my 01 bullitt and all it had was LT headers, O/R X, flowmasters and 315 drag radials. i only ran it once at the track and the first time i got out of it was a 13.9 so maybe your track time seems a little off
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you guys should both buy 99 camaro Autos, put LTs, lid and a stall and have a solid 12 second car.
naa where is the excitment on gettin an already fast car, lol
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what? 99 auto camaro is a 14.2-13.6 second car at 100-103, That is sloooow. I then suggested investing your money into that instead of the mustang which will take you no where n/a.

adding LT, exhaust, 3500 stall (w/ tranny cooler), lid will make it quick and get you to 12.2-12.7 at 108-110

I would not advise anyone with an almost full bolton drag radials car running 12s who wants to go quicker to continue modding. Either practice ALOT or buy a better foundation with an stalled auto.
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what? 99 auto camaro is a 14.2-13.6 second car at 100-103, That is sloooow. I then suggested investing your money into that instead of the mustang which will take you no where n/a.

adding LT, exhaust, 3500 stall (w/ tranny cooler), lid will make it quick and get you to 12.2-12.7 at 108-110

I would not advise anyone with an almost full bolton drag radials car running 12s who wants to go quicker to continue modding. Either practice ALOT or buy a better foundation with an stalled auto.
Instead of goin he bowtie route, he could do a 96-98 cobra or better yet my top vote that i want to do soon a Mach 1. A guy here locally has one with LT's, JLT Cai, o/r mid, SLP lm2, 4.30s w/ mt drags and pulls 12.40s with 1.85 60 fts. COuld improve but not a bad NA daily driver IMO.
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a 99 camaro is exactly half the price of a mach 1. He also mentioned the bowtie route. I didnt just randomly bring it up to be a troll.

and a 99 camaro with the same mods will be faster than a mach 1 with the same mods. Unfortunately. Going to a 98 cobra would be a step in the wrong direction from where he is. quite a bit slower than a full bolton GT
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and a 99 camaro with the same mods will be faster than a mach 1 with the same mods. Unfortunately. Going to a 98 cobra would be a step in the wrong direction from where he is. quite a bit slower than a full bolton GT
? you said a month ago that a gear/lt/tire 98 cobra was a solid 12 second car and thats faster than a bolt on GT

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barely

its more of a solid 12s instead of eeking in there

full exhaust and 4.10s or greater and tire. I know several girls at txstate that have busted off 12s with those mods.

I know guys on here and around town that have done far less with more mods.

a full bolton 96-98 4v is a faster combo than your average head/vtstage2 cam full bolton 2v

if you can land a set of 03 heads and intake and use your 98 cams, you are looking at a potential 350+ rwhp combo
that is an 11 second car with traction
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