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Old 05-06-2008, 11:57 PM   #1
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Its Finally Running!!!!

Today at 3:53pm I pushed the button on my remote starter button and my 351W came to life. Its just freaking AWESOME. Ill try to get some pix and maybe a vid posted in a few days.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:00 AM   #2
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:51 AM   #3
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95' 351W Roller Motor out of an F-150.
E-303 Camshaft
Cloyes Dual Roller Timing Set
MSD Billet Distributor (8584) w/ FRPP Steel Gear
Bosch Platinum Plugs
Taylor Spark Plug Wires
MSD 6AL Box and Blaster 3 Coil
Milodon High Flow Water pump
Melling High Flow Oil Pump w/ HD Shaft
Professional Products Typhoon Intake manifold
2" Carb Spacer
Edelbrock 750 (I think its a bit big in this trim, figue a 650 would server just fine but I had the 750 setting around the shop collecting dust)
Flex-A-Lite Black Magic #185 Cooling Fan ( If you have this fan or are going to get this fan dont neglect the instruction when it says not to put a ground wire on the "manual on" switch that is not the Flex-A-Lite switch because you think it still needs one because the ground wire will burn up)
Be-Cool Eliminator Series 2 Row Direct-Fit Aluminum Radiator (Which isnt direct fit, has brackets that you have to cut off, and has the inlet and outlets swapped so I had to spend a lot of extra time getting it custom fit and mounted, and finding misc. radiator hoses to work with the swapped sided ports)

So far its running good, save for the slipping problem with the clutch. And is was great to finally get the engine running to blow out the cobwebs built up in the flowmaster 40s.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:04 PM   #4
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Replace the spark plugs and the cam, never use Bosch or platinum plugs in ford or any performance application. If you run the car hard it probably won't take long for the car to gain a miss as a result of the plugs. The cam is small for a 351, but it will work. If you are going to put a 351 in the car instead of a 302, I would want something that would run faster than 12s. It is easy to get a 302 into the 12s or even 11s on motor, a 351 car should run at least low 11s, I would want at least 10s. I had a friend who used a Comp conversion roller cam that had very close to the same duration and lobe centers as a E cam, but a lot more lift. That engine woud run out of steam past 5400 rpm. It ran 12.80s most of the time and I think a few 12.60s. The combo you put together should run in the 13s. Also you are right about the carb, if you have stock heads and an E cam you would be better off with a 650 carb.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:41 PM   #5
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you know what they say, build a 351w like a 302, and it'll run like a 302
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:50 PM   #6
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95' 351W Roller Motor out of an F-150.
E-303 Camshaft
Cloyes Dual Roller Timing Set
MSD Billet Distributor (8584) w/ FRPP Steel Gear
Bosch Platinum Plugs
Taylor Spark Plug Wires
MSD 6AL Box and Blaster 3 Coil
Milodon High Flow Water pump
Melling High Flow Oil Pump w/ HD Shaft
Professional Products Typhoon Intake manifold
2" Carb Spacer
Edelbrock 750 (I think its a bit big in this trim, figue a 650 would server just fine but I had the 750 setting around the shop collecting dust)
Flex-A-Lite Black Magic #185 Cooling Fan ( If you have this fan or are going to get this fan dont neglect the instruction when it says not to put a ground wire on the "manual on" switch that is not the Flex-A-Lite switch because you think it still needs one because the ground wire will burn up)
Be-Cool Eliminator Series 2 Row Direct-Fit Aluminum Radiator (Which isnt direct fit, has brackets that you have to cut off, and has the inlet and outlets swapped so I had to spend a lot of extra time getting it custom fit and mounted, and finding misc. radiator hoses to work with the swapped sided ports)

So far its running good, save for the slipping problem with the clutch. And is was great to finally get the engine running to blow out the cobwebs built up in the flowmaster 40s.
I hope you don't still have a stock T-5 tranny in that car... from what I have understood a stock T-5 will not last too long behind a 351W unless you baby the car.
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Replace the spark plugs and the cam, never use Bosch or platinum plugs in ford or any performance application. If you run the car hard it probably won't take long for the car to gain a miss as a result of the plugs. The cam is small for a 351, but it will work. If you are going to put a 351 in the car instead of a 302, I would want something that would run faster than 12s. It is easy to get a 302 into the 12s or even 11s on motor, a 351 car should run at least low 11s, I would want at least 10s. I had a friend who used a Comp conversion roller cam that had very close to the same duration and lobe centers as a E cam, but a lot more lift. That engine woud run out of steam past 5400 rpm. It ran 12.80s most of the time and I think a few 12.60s. The combo you put together should run in the 13s. Also you are right about the carb, if you have stock heads and an E cam you would be better off with a 650 carb.
I agree with Sonic Blue 85 on the cam and plugs used in your motor. Ditch the Bosch plugs and get the Autolite AR series plugs (they have proven to produce more HP than an NGK on the Dyno) and they last. I'd get a stage two or three TFS cam to throw in that 351 and set the compression to 10.2:1. You would be extremely happy with a setup like that... especially if you stroked it to a 408.

First manor of order though, change those plugs soon!!!
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If you still have the T-5 behind the 351W then leave your combo alone as you will build more than enough torque to wreck the tranny. Tune on it and get it running smooth. I had an 830 cfm carb on a 302 so your 750 will work just fine if its what you have to work with. Change the plugs though as that is cheap and the autolites are much better.

I do agree that a person can get a lot more out of a 351W with different heads, cam, etc. but that all costs money and maybe the whole intent here was to use what was at hand and keep the costs down. If that is the case then suggestions on how to tune the current combo would make more sense. Stuff like cam timing, jetting the carb, etc.

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Old 05-10-2008, 10:41 PM   #9
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Heres a couple of videos of my Fox.

Heres a couple of videos that I made of my Fox. The first is a picture video made from pictures that I took of it when I first got it in September 07.
The second is made from videos taken just of few days ago of it first running.

This is my 86 FOX SSP Stang. Im in the beginning s - Video

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If you still have the T-5 behind the 351W then leave your combo alone as you will build more than enough torque to wreck the tranny. Tune on it and get it running smooth. I had an 830 cfm carb on a 302 so your 750 will work just fine if its what you have to work with. Change the plugs though as that is cheap and the autolites are much better.

I do agree that a person can get a lot more out of a 351W with different heads, cam, etc. but that all costs money and maybe the whole intent here was to use what was at hand and keep the costs down. If that is the case then suggestions on how to tune the current combo would make more sense. Stuff like cam timing, jetting the carb, etc.

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Old 05-12-2008, 12:39 AM   #11
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i got boush plugs in mine i beleiev the platinum seris ones so i shouldnt run them pm me an let me know
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