Kotzur Racing for Machine Work?

no cigar · 05-15-2008, 01:03 AM

DOes anyone know wether or not Kotzur would be a good place to go for machine work on an aluminum block for a 4v build>? Thanks

**AdRock** · 05-15-2008, 01:14 AM

Kotzur does great work. Although, it can take FOREVER to get it done.

johnc · 05-15-2008, 01:51 AM

mission auto parts. john and tom hamilton racing engines 2918 roosevelt san antonio tx 210-921-2803

**TrueBlueVenom** · 05-15-2008, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AdRock

Kotzur does great work. Although, it can take FOREVER to get it done.

werd. it took them months last year on my 4v and heads. i also have waited a year so far just to get a build sheet from them. i have no idea what ended out going in my motor.

tpcobra95 · 05-15-2008, 07:21 AM

What did they do to your heads? That is gonna be who I am using for my 4v build

racer99 · 05-15-2008, 08:08 AM

Craig Pullen,Mission,Longs,Kotzur,all are good.

machgsxr · 05-15-2008, 08:51 AM

What is the typical price range of these builders being mentioned.

I ask because I know of a builder that will build a 4v for me to handle up to 1k hp for about 4k. Not bad considering what some other places had quoted me.

02silverstang · 05-15-2008, 09:24 AM

I have heard nothing but good things and there going to build my 4v short block with forged stuff for 1900 and they already told me its going to take a month but am cool with it since there good about there stuff from what every one i have talked to says .

thunderchicken · 05-15-2008, 12:37 PM

Yea they have always done work for me at unbelieveable prices. It had always been like hundreds less than any other more expensive machine shop had quoted me.But yes it does take a long time,depending on whats getting done,but atleast i know that its going to be done right......

tpcobra95 · 05-15-2008, 12:42 PM

what is the usual wait time for Kotzur?

T5killa · 05-15-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tpcobra95

what is the usual wait time for Kotzur?

they say a month but usually ends up being 2 or 3. My dads ls2 took them almost 4 months.

**TrueBlueVenom** · 05-15-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tpcobra95

What did they do to your heads? That is gonna be who I am using for my 4v build

stage 2 port. stage 3 crowers. h/d cam chains & gears

no cigar · 05-15-2008, 10:48 PM

Do they hand port or CNC??

**psiperformance** · 05-16-2008, 10:34 AM

there is no cnc porter anywhere in south texas..

btw ALL cnc ported heads started out as a HAND ported head that they then copied into the cnc machine

cnc just allows for a much faster copy of the exact port over and over..

but a talented hand porter can repeat his work over and over as well just a cnc is faster at it.

tpcobra95 · 05-16-2008, 11:49 AM

you would figure somebody would want to get on that. I think I will go with Fox Lake for mine

03 R Code · 05-16-2008, 06:04 PM

If you go to the Mach1Registry.com there is a guy on there with the sn Nazman. Everything ever said about him has been great. He's known all over that registry on the magic he can do with the 4v head and even the intakes. He qouted me a price of $500 per head and $500 for a ported intake. If I ever get any port work done he'll be the one to do it.

**TrueBlueVenom** · 05-16-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 03 R Code

If you go to the Mach1Registry.com there is a guy on there with the sn Nazman. Everything ever said about him has been great. He's known all over that registry on the magic he can do with the 4v head and even the intakes. He qouted me a price of $500 per head and $500 for a ported intake. If I ever get any port work done he'll be the one to do it.

He's on LSS, as well. Very nice guy

03 R Code · 05-17-2008, 11:15 AM

Never knew that.

timpryor · 05-17-2008, 04:38 PM

go with Kotzur if you like waiting and paying alot

go with Nazman if you want them done faster, less exspensive and better.

96greengt · 05-19-2008, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psiperformance

there is no cnc porter anywhere in south texas..

btw ALL cnc ported heads started out as a HAND ported head that they then copied into the cnc machine

cnc just allows for a much faster copy of the exact port over and over..

but a talented hand porter can repeat his work over and over as well just a cnc is faster at it.

That, and CNC porting is not as cracked up to be as it is made. Modular engines tend to like some turbulence in port work where as CNC machining cannot duplicate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by timpryor

go with Kotzur if you like waiting and paying alot

go with Nazman if you want them done faster, less exspensive and better.

This coming from the guy who just hears things but has no actual first hand experience.

05-15-2008, 01:03 AM	#1
no cigar Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (1)	Kotzur Racing for Machine Work? DOes anyone know wether or not Kotzur would be a good place to go for machine work on an aluminum block for a 4v build>? Thanks

05-15-2008, 01:14 AM	#2
AdRock I am the Great Cornholio, give me all your TP Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: On The Move Posts: 5,048 Trader Rating: (5)	Kotzur does great work. Although, it can take FOREVER to get it done. __________________ '02 Stang GT Just cause you don't understand what's going on ...don't mean it don't make no sense And just cause you don't like it,...don't mean it aint no good And let me tell you something Before you go taking a walk in my world,...you better take a look at the real world Cause this aint no Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Can you say "feel like shit?"Yea maybe sometimes I do feel like shit I aint happy about it, but I'd rather feel like shit than be full of shit! And if I offended you, Oh I'm sorry, But, maybe you needed to be offended But here's my apology and one more thing........Fuck you! Cause you can't bring me down

05-15-2008, 07:21 AM	#5
tpcobra95 SN-95 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Antonio,Tx Posts: 716 Trader Rating: (4)	What did they do to your heads? That is gonna be who I am using for my 4v build __________________ 95 COBRA= Project Dark Venom 98 GT= DD

05-15-2008, 08:08 AM	#6
racer99 Box Foxes Rule!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 1,099 Trader Rating: (1)	Craig Pullen,Mission,Longs,Kotzur,all are good. __________________ Never underestimate the unpredictability of stupidity! 78 Zephyr, 306 turbo 82 Granada Wagon,306 150 shot 88 Mustang 2.3 turbo 100 shot Last edited by racer99; 05-15-2008 at 09:52 AM.

05-15-2008, 09:24 AM	#8
02silverstang Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ft hood Posts: 413 Trader Rating: (3)	kutzur I have heard nothing but good things and there going to build my 4v short block with forged stuff for 1900 and they already told me its going to take a month but am cool with it since there good about there stuff from what every one i have talked to says .

05-15-2008, 01:51 AM	#3
johnc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: san antonio tx Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0)	mission auto parts. john and tom hamilton racing engines 2918 roosevelt san antonio tx 210-921-2803

05-15-2008, 08:51 AM	#7
machgsxr speed-olic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio Posts: 777 Trader Rating: (7)	What is the typical price range of these builders being mentioned. I ask because I know of a builder that will build a 4v for me to handle up to 1k hp for about 4k. Not bad considering what some other places had quoted me.

05-15-2008, 12:37 PM	#9
thunderchicken WOOB WOOB WOOB WOOB NYRRK NYRRK NYRRK NYRRK Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio TX. Posts: 1,504 Trader Rating: (0)	Yea they have always done work for me at unbelieveable prices. It had always been like hundreds less than any other more expensive machine shop had quoted me.But yes it does take a long time,depending on whats getting done,but atleast i know that its going to be done right...... __________________

05-15-2008, 12:42 PM	#10
tpcobra95 SN-95 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Antonio,Tx Posts: 716 Trader Rating: (4)	what is the usual wait time for Kotzur? __________________ 95 COBRA= Project Dark Venom 98 GT= DD

05-15-2008, 10:48 PM	#13
no cigar Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (1)	Do they hand port or CNC??

05-16-2008, 10:34 AM	#14
psiperformance LSS Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 737 Trader Rating: (1)	there is no cnc porter anywhere in south texas.. btw ALL cnc ported heads started out as a HAND ported head that they then copied into the cnc machine cnc just allows for a much faster copy of the exact port over and over.. but a talented hand porter can repeat his work over and over as well just a cnc is faster at it. __________________ PSI Performance Solutions 210-655-6546 10811 nacogdoches road San Antonio TX 78217 cmr tuners and full service performance shop.

05-16-2008, 11:49 AM	#15
tpcobra95 SN-95 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Antonio,Tx Posts: 716 Trader Rating: (4)	you would figure somebody would want to get on that. I think I will go with Fox Lake for mine __________________ 95 COBRA= Project Dark Venom 98 GT= DD

05-16-2008, 06:04 PM	#16
03 R Code Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Antonio Posts: 926 Trader Rating: (0)	If you go to the Mach1Registry.com there is a guy on there with the sn Nazman. Everything ever said about him has been great. He's known all over that registry on the magic he can do with the 4v head and even the intakes. He qouted me a price of $500 per head and $500 for a ported intake. If I ever get any port work done he'll be the one to do it. __________________ Po Pimpin'

05-17-2008, 11:15 AM	#18
03 R Code Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Antonio Posts: 926 Trader Rating: (0)	Never knew that. __________________ Po Pimpin'

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