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Ok, so I've done an cylinder compression test and have got numbers between 65(lowest)-110(highest) PSI which is way to low(I found engine specs here... Ford 289 Engine Specs);
Cylinder/Compression PSI #1/95 #2/105 #3/102 #4/110 #5/80 #6/65 #7/105 #8/110 So which leads me next to have a leak down test done. I've been reading up on what could cause low compression and found; "A cylinder that has poor compression, but minimal leakage, usually has a valvetrain problem such as a worn cam lobe, broken valve spring, collapsed lifter, bent push rod, etc." -Leak Down Test, yahoo!auto's So it could be a multitude of problems. Its just figuring out which one. I have a feeling it could be the cam or the timing chain might be of a tooth or 2. I tried to find a leak down tester but no one sells them. Does anyone know of a good reasonable place to take it to get one? And if its a valve timing problem, bad cam lobe, or broken valve spring would it be easy to fix myself?
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![]() ![]() ![]() What do you think it could be? I'm sure its not a bent rod otherwise I would have heard it already. |
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Sounds like its plain worn out.
Ring seal,or valve seal are non existant or so it seems.A bad lobe would only affect 1 cylinder. Did you do the compression test the right way? Dry. then shoot some oil in the plug hole and redo it. Does it pick up any cranking pressure? Seeings how its all 8 cylinders I would think either rings, excessive bore wear,or valve seal is gone(valve job at best or heads at worst). Does it still have the original heads on it?If so I would bet the exhaust seats are gone unless someone put hardened seats in them.
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whens the last time your motor was rebuilt? tear it down have the cylinder walls cleaned up and rebuild it. this could also give you a chance to add some better internals, im sure those are worn to shit to.
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Holy crap....
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Damn, I knew this thread was coming, I even predicted it last night.
I am with Larry on this.. you and your car have issues. Thought your dad was the Jedi master on cars... why can't he assist you??
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Built 00 Windsor engine, .20 over, 11.6:1cr, fully ported heads, Hardballer intake w/cooling mod, Scat rods, Probe pistons, Cobra crank, tri-metal Clevite race bearings, VT Stage 2 N/A cams, adjustable cam gears, Canton windage tray, MMR oil pump, Cobra pick up, 75MM Accufab t-body, Dragon plenum, JLT CAI, 24# injectors, Bassani mid lengths, mufflers & O/R X,255lph fuel pump, BBK FPR, Fidanza aluminum flywheel, AJE K-member, ARP hardware everywhere, X-Cal SCT custom tuned, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, polygraphite motor mounts. |
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SUPER SAIYAN - LEVEL 8 PHELPS!!!!
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One plug hole at a time, dry. and I did each one 2 to make sure I was getting correct numbers. Yes, it has the original 289 heads on it still. So if it was the valves would I better better off not messing with the cast iron heads and just get a used set of better heads? Would a leak down test tell me if it's the valves or bore? I don't want to buy a set of heads and it end up being worn bores. ![]() Quote:
I could tear it down and rebuild it but whats the point if the bores are worn or the valves are bad? I wish I had the extra cash to put internals also but don't right now. ![]() I think I might just look into buying a short block, I'm finding plenty of 302's on craiglist for a $100 or so. Or find a set of e7's or better.
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can you guys not post unless you have some helpful info
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This would save me money and I would have more power than the 289 Ford 302. 5.0 short block And I could install it myself, my uncle has an engine lift. |
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looks mean, workin' on the fast
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doesn't look bad, but you'd swap your 289 timing cover and oil pan anyway... and a balancer is $50 at any engine shop.
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my 289 cover will fit on this late model of a 302? and this motor is from Texas Motor Sports, I called today when I saw the ad and left them a message. So hopefully they call back and I can get it.
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1965 Mustang Last edited by Ryan_65Stallion; 05-17-2008 at 08:24 PM. |
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. Thanks for info though! |
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Stroked and Procharged
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needs a tune
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