LITTLE INFO ON PATRIOT FREEDOM HEADS

BHAM · 06-26-2008, 11:15 PM

JUST GOT A SET, 60CC CHAMBERS,185 CC RUNNERS,2.02 INTAKE VALVES 1.6 EXHAUST VALVES. SPRINGS GOOD TO .550. 5 ANGLE VALVE JOB

I HAVE TO SAY FOR THE PRICE, THEY CANT BE BEAT!
THESE HEADS ARE THE EXACT CAST AS THE AFR185....AND I MEAN EXACT, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THET ARE NOT CNC PORTED. NOW THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT CAUSED A LITTLE CONCERN.
1 THE MACHINING ON THE HEADS ISNT PRECISION, I HAVE SEEN WORSE, SVO GT40 ALUM HEADS TO BE EXACT.
2 WHERE THE HARDENED SEAT IS , IT NEEDS A LITTLE MASSAGING WITH THE OL CARBIDE BIT
3 ON THE INTAKE SIDE WHERE THE BRONZE GUIDE IS COULD USE A LITTLE HELP...IT COULD STAND TO BE" BLENDED IN ".
4 OTHER THAN THAT THESE HEADS ARE ON PAR FOR WHAT YOU PAY.. A VERY NICE BUDGET HEAD AND COULD BE A SERIOUS CONTENDER WITH A LITTLE HELP......THATS IF YOU CONCIDER THE AFR185 SERIOUS!!!!!!

**AdRock** · 06-27-2008, 12:46 AM

I've heard wayyyyyyy too many horror stories about Patriot to ever by them for myself. I hope they turn out great for you.

BHAM · 06-27-2008, 08:52 AM

SAMEHERE, BUT THEY ARE REALLY NICE HEADS EXCEPT FOR THE LITTLE STUFF THAT COULD BE FIXED

racer99 · 06-27-2008, 09:01 AM

Not bashing,just passing along
info.
I understand some are a little thin in the
valve spring area.Be careful if you
get them machined for larger od springs
or deeper for taller ones.

BHAM · 06-27-2008, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer99

Not bashing,just passing along
info.
I understand some are a little thin in the
valve spring area.Be careful if you
get them machined for larger od springs
or deeper for taller ones.

GOOD INFO THANKS

TheBocSez · 06-27-2008, 10:56 AM

One of the main horror stories I have heard about them is the spark plugs being blown out due to the threading in the heads. Any input on the quality in that area?

**thesource** · 06-27-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBocSez

One of the main horror stories I have heard about them is the spark plugs being blown out due to the threading in the heads. Any input on the quality in that area?

I think you are referring to the 4.6 2v heads . Brandon is talking about the SBF 185 casting . I have heard they are complete crap and the worst casting on the market . The pictures I seen on Hardcore 5.0 looked terrible but others have said stuff about the Pro Comp head and mine looked fine and flowed decent numbers . I am sure with some work , they will do fine for a budget build up .

Bird · 06-27-2008, 05:32 PM

Go to some of the Lightning boards and do a search on Patriot - you'll get plenty of info.

Bird

TheBocSez · 06-27-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesource

I think you are referring to the 4.6 2v heads . Brandon is talking about the SBF 185 casting . I have heard they are complete crap and the worst casting on the market . The pictures I seen on Hardcore 5.0 looked terrible but others have said stuff about the Pro Comp head and mine looked fine and flowed decent numbers . I am sure with some work , they will do fine for a budget build up .

You are correct, that is the heads I referring to. I thought that was what BHAM purchased. As you were.

BHAM · 06-28-2008, 09:40 AM

I WILL SHOOT SOME PICS!

06-26-2008, 11:15 PM	#1
BHAM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: paige tx Posts: 805 Trader Rating: (6)	LITTLE INFO ON PATRIOT FREEDOM HEADS JUST GOT A SET, 60CC CHAMBERS,185 CC RUNNERS,2.02 INTAKE VALVES 1.6 EXHAUST VALVES. SPRINGS GOOD TO .550. 5 ANGLE VALVE JOB I HAVE TO SAY FOR THE PRICE, THEY CANT BE BEAT! THESE HEADS ARE THE EXACT CAST AS THE AFR185....AND I MEAN EXACT, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THET ARE NOT CNC PORTED. NOW THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT CAUSED A LITTLE CONCERN. 1 THE MACHINING ON THE HEADS ISNT PRECISION, I HAVE SEEN WORSE, SVO GT40 ALUM HEADS TO BE EXACT. 2 WHERE THE HARDENED SEAT IS , IT NEEDS A LITTLE MASSAGING WITH THE OL CARBIDE BIT 3 ON THE INTAKE SIDE WHERE THE BRONZE GUIDE IS COULD USE A LITTLE HELP...IT COULD STAND TO BE" BLENDED IN ". 4 OTHER THAN THAT THESE HEADS ARE ON PAR FOR WHAT YOU PAY.. A VERY NICE BUDGET HEAD AND COULD BE A SERIOUS CONTENDER WITH A LITTLE HELP......THATS IF YOU CONCIDER THE AFR185 SERIOUS!!!!!!

06-27-2008, 12:46 AM	#2
AdRock I am the Great Cornholio, give me all your TP Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: On The Move Posts: 5,261 Trader Rating: (5)	I've heard wayyyyyyy too many horror stories about Patriot to ever by them for myself. I hope they turn out great for you. __________________ '02 Stang GT Just cause you don't understand what's going on ...don't mean it don't make no sense And just cause you don't like it,...don't mean it aint no good And let me tell you something Before you go taking a walk in my world,...you better take a look at the real world Cause this aint no Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Can you say "feel like shit?"Yea maybe sometimes I do feel like shit I aint happy about it, but I'd rather feel like shit than be full of shit! And if I offended you, Oh I'm sorry, But, maybe you need to be offended But here's my apology and one more thing........Fuck you! Cause you can't bring me down

06-27-2008, 09:01 AM	#4
racer99 Box Foxes Rule!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 1,241 Trader Rating: (1)	Not bashing,just passing along info. I understand some are a little thin in the valve spring area.Be careful if you get them machined for larger od springs or deeper for taller ones. __________________ Never underestimate the unpredictability of stupidity! 78 Zephyr, 82 Granada Wagon, 88 Mustang 2.3T 94 GT Last edited by racer99; 06-27-2008 at 09:06 AM.

06-27-2008, 05:32 PM	#8
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06-27-2008, 08:52 AM	#3
BHAM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: paige tx Posts: 805 Trader Rating: (6)	SAMEHERE, BUT THEY ARE REALLY NICE HEADS EXCEPT FOR THE LITTLE STUFF THAT COULD BE FIXED

06-27-2008, 10:56 AM	#6
TheBocSez I has too many LESS LETHAL weapons Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Converse, TX Posts: 1,076 Trader Rating: (1)	One of the main horror stories I have heard about them is the spark plugs being blown out due to the threading in the heads. Any input on the quality in that area?

06-28-2008, 09:40 AM	#10
BHAM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: paige tx Posts: 805 Trader Rating: (6)	I WILL SHOOT SOME PICS!