Modding Help 05+ GT

Agent Jones · 11-16-2007, 06:55 PM

My christmas and New year bonuses are on the way and the mod bug has bit. well I have $3,000 to spend and wanna spend about $500-700 on mods for the car and the rest on full exhaust for the bike. I already have a CAI and just ordered a short throw shifter thats on the way. Also have a xpipe thats about to get put on also. I just have a couple of questions regarding some mods.

1.)UPR Throttle Body Spacer Plate V8 and it states to add 10+hp. Questions - does it require a tune (dont wanna do a tune until out of warranty), does it really work, and does it work with a CAI installed. (Unlimited Performance Racing Products On-Line - UPR Throttle Body Spacer Plate V8)

2.)Gears should i go with 3.73 or 4.10 on a manual transmission.

What other mods could i get and stay under budget.

4.6stanger · 11-16-2007, 11:32 PM

4.10s!!! i did 3.73s and now regret it! should of done 4.10s!! DO IT!

mustangmelish · 11-17-2007, 11:37 PM

general rule is 3.73 for manual trannies. i dont think the throttle body spacer does much..

Agent Jones · 11-17-2007, 11:46 PM

i thought general rule was 3.73 for blown engines but manual could be 4.10 or 3.73

Agent Jones · 11-18-2007, 02:01 AM

no one has info about mods on s197s or what????

Agent Jones · 11-18-2007, 02:16 AM

i found this 65mm tb and spacer for a total of 380 shipped, states gains of 12hp on the tb and 5-8hp on the spacer. I think im gonna order these in the next couple of days, hoping to get some feedback on someone who has installed these already. They also report gain on gas milage.

timpryor · 11-18-2007, 11:25 AM

throttle body spacers don't really work

chances are you don't need a new TB at this point with your mods

and get 4.10's its the only way to go IMHO, you will notice more of a difference with gears than any other bolt on period

JCSGT · 11-18-2007, 10:13 PM

my opinion would be 4.10s and a tuner, I think with what you already have those will give you the biggest gain for what you want to spend.

Most people agree that tb spacers aren't worth anything. If your really set on a TB get yourself a gt500 TB. There have been tons of post about aftermarket TBs failing or causing other issues.

thatdavidkid · 11-18-2007, 11:14 PM

seeing as you dont want to tune it, stay away from intake mods.. BUT with gears, a tuner is the easiest most versatile way to correct your spedometer... do you do more city or highway driving? (inside san antonio driving doesnot count as highway) if more city, i'd say 4.10's.....

95 GTS · 11-19-2007, 08:53 AM

4.10s

no tb and sspacer

An intake and a tune would be GREAT there is so much lost in the stock tune. Your biggest mph gain will come from that. mufflers wont actually add any speed.

2k4mk1 · 11-19-2007, 09:07 AM

4.10's & tune
as above no TB or spacer

thatdavidkid · 11-19-2007, 09:27 AM

and as far as warranty goes... i wouldn't worry about it, if you get a handheld tuner... you can always pull the modified tune back off

Agent Jones · 11-19-2007, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatdavidkid

and as far as warranty goes... i wouldn't worry about it, if you get a handheld tuner... you can always pull the modified tune back off

my friends warranty was voided because of a tuner. He pulled the tune off before he took it in however they could tell that it had been flashed. The dealerships have a new program that shares info with all the other dealerships. Any thing you have done to your car is put in a shared database. So he cant take his car to any ford dealership and have it fixed under warranty. I dont wanna take that chance. I bought an extended 7 yr 75k mile warranty and i dont wanna risk it.

Agent Jones · 11-19-2007, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

4.10s
mufflers wont actually add any speed.

I wanna get mufflers for sound not any hp gain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatdavidkid

seeing as you dont want to tune it, stay away from intake mods.. BUT with gears, a tuner is the easiest most versatile way to correct your spedometer... do you do more city or highway driving? (inside san antonio driving doesnot count as highway) if more city, i'd say 4.10's.....

I do alot of highway driving and some city driving. Also if i wanna get gears is there any way i can fix the speedo corrected with out the tune.

Wiked · 11-19-2007, 01:24 PM

speedcal is supposed to fix the speedo.

Agent Jones · 11-19-2007, 01:30 PM

who is this??? Juan?? man i havent seen you in days. lol jk. We need to get together sometime. Anyway what is speedcal?

**psiperformance** · 11-20-2007, 07:54 PM

due a real cold air intake instead of the pos no tune k/n and tune package and a set of under drive pulleys

with your off road you will make around 290 rwhp

Wiked · 11-20-2007, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent Jones

who is this??? Juan?? man i havent seen you in days. lol jk. We need to get together sometime. Anyway what is speedcal?

shit I know. I might head over to Cody's Tomorrow, (11-21-07), but back on topic... I havent been able to find any speed cals for s197's, but here they are for new edges Speed Calibrator - SpeedCal at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

Agent Jones · 11-20-2007, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psiperformance

due a real cold air intake instead of the pos no tune k/n and tune package and a set of under drive pulleys

with your off road you will make around 290 rwhp

i got the kn because i will not tune until the warranty is up.

Agent Jones · 11-20-2007, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiked

shit I know. I might head over to Cody's Tomorrow, (11-21-07), but back on topic... I havent been able to find any speed cals for s197's, but here they are for new edges Speed Calibrator - SpeedCal at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

what time and where does he live. what ru guys gonna do. im going to alamo cycle plex to order the full exhaust and other things for my bike in the morning. that little aount of tubing is gonna cost me $1700

11-16-2007, 06:55 PM	#1
Agent Jones Nice Hat SUfanINsa (Steve) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio Posts: 8,058 Trader Rating: (1)	Modding Help 05+ GT My christmas and New year bonuses are on the way and the mod bug has bit. well I have $3,000 to spend and wanna spend about $500-700 on mods for the car and the rest on full exhaust for the bike. I already have a CAI and just ordered a short throw shifter thats on the way. Also have a xpipe thats about to get put on also. I just have a couple of questions regarding some mods. 1.)UPR Throttle Body Spacer Plate V8 and it states to add 10+hp. Questions - does it require a tune (dont wanna do a tune until out of warranty), does it really work, and does it work with a CAI installed. (Unlimited Performance Racing Products On-Line - UPR Throttle Body Spacer Plate V8) 2.)Gears should i go with 3.73 or 4.10 on a manual transmission. What other mods could i get and stay under budget. __________________ OU > UT > TT

11-16-2007, 11:32 PM	#2
4.6stanger Three-hundredths of a second away from it!!!! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lufkin, Texas Posts: 2,740 Trader Rating: (2)	4.10s!!! i did 3.73s and now regret it! should of done 4.10s!! DO IT! __________________ What will it be, Breakin 12's or Breakin drivetrain.

11-17-2007, 11:46 PM	#4
Agent Jones Nice Hat SUfanINsa (Steve) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio Posts: 8,058 Trader Rating: (1)	i thought general rule was 3.73 for blown engines but manual could be 4.10 or 3.73 __________________ OU > UT > TT

11-18-2007, 02:01 AM	#5
Agent Jones Nice Hat SUfanINsa (Steve) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio Posts: 8,058 Trader Rating: (1)	no one has info about mods on s197s or what???? __________________ OU > UT > TT

11-18-2007, 02:16 AM	#6
Agent Jones Nice Hat SUfanINsa (Steve) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio Posts: 8,058 Trader Rating: (1)	i found this 65mm tb and spacer for a total of 380 shipped, states gains of 12hp on the tb and 5-8hp on the spacer. I think im gonna order these in the next couple of days, hoping to get some feedback on someone who has installed these already. They also report gain on gas milage. __________________ OU > UT > TT

11-18-2007, 11:25 AM	#7
timpryor Giving up Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 8,207 Trader Rating: (6)	throttle body spacers don't really work chances are you don't need a new TB at this point with your mods and get 4.10's its the only way to go IMHO, you will notice more of a difference with gears than any other bolt on period

11-18-2007, 10:13 PM	#8
JCSGT Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Converse, TX Posts: 239 Trader Rating: (0)	my opinion would be 4.10s and a tuner, I think with what you already have those will give you the biggest gain for what you want to spend. Most people agree that tb spacers aren't worth anything. If your really set on a TB get yourself a gt500 TB. There have been tons of post about aftermarket TBs failing or causing other issues. __________________ Jeff 01 M6 Vette

11-18-2007, 11:14 PM	#9
thatdavidkid looks mean, workin' on the fast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Denton Posts: 3,901 Trader Rating: (1)	seeing as you dont want to tune it, stay away from intake mods.. BUT with gears, a tuner is the easiest most versatile way to correct your spedometer... do you do more city or highway driving? (inside san antonio driving doesnot count as highway) if more city, i'd say 4.10's..... __________________ 1991 lx coupe t-5 swap, billit quadrant, upr firewall adjuster, steeda tri-ax, custom jb tool and fab one off subframe connectors, 8.8 w/posi and 4.10's with 5 lug axles, tubular upper control arms, southside lowers, and pbr twin piston front calipers with "snowflake" wheels

11-19-2007, 08:53 AM	#10
95 GTS Back in the saddle again Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,710 Trader Rating: (0)	4.10s no tb and sspacer An intake and a tune would be GREAT there is so much lost in the stock tune. Your biggest mph gain will come from that. mufflers wont actually add any speed. __________________ 2007 Reflex Silver Wolfsburg Jetta - new hotness 1995 Canary Yellow GTS - Sold 12.81@106.2 w/1.80 60' Boltons/E303 + 3100 lbs + M&H 246 HP/ 290 TQ 12.57 @ 109.21 w/1.76 60' Boltons/GT40Ps/XE270 + 3240 lbs + 555Rs 295 HP / 321 TQ

11-19-2007, 09:07 AM	#11
2k4mk1 DONT HATE ME CUZ YOU AINT ME!!!! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: SanAntonio Posts: 6,376 Trader Rating: (2)	4.10's & tune as above no TB or spacer __________________ 04 Oxford White MACH1,5 SPD with IUP,K&NAircharger Borla Stingers,SLP Catted X pipe,Tri-ax,SCT Flashtune,Max Mtr Spt 4 bolt adj C/C plates, Drilled/Slotted rotors all 4 corners 281 rwhp on Mustang Dyno,306 rwhp on a Dynojet 94 Black Lightning Daily Driver&85GT FACH1 Project under construction

11-19-2007, 09:27 AM	#12
thatdavidkid looks mean, workin' on the fast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Denton Posts: 3,901 Trader Rating: (1)	and as far as warranty goes... i wouldn't worry about it, if you get a handheld tuner... you can always pull the modified tune back off __________________ 1991 lx coupe t-5 swap, billit quadrant, upr firewall adjuster, steeda tri-ax, custom jb tool and fab one off subframe connectors, 8.8 w/posi and 4.10's with 5 lug axles, tubular upper control arms, southside lowers, and pbr twin piston front calipers with "snowflake" wheels

11-19-2007, 01:24 PM	#15
Wiked LoneStarStangs Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Somerset, Tx Posts: 5,585 Trader Rating: (2)	speedcal is supposed to fix the speedo. __________________ IN LAK'ECH YUCATEC MAYAN CODE OF HONOR "I AM ANOTHER YOURSELF" Impossible Maze Game<<< Really a maze game, not the song anymore

11-19-2007, 01:30 PM	#16
Agent Jones Nice Hat SUfanINsa (Steve) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio Posts: 8,058 Trader Rating: (1)	who is this??? Juan?? man i havent seen you in days. lol jk. We need to get together sometime. Anyway what is speedcal? __________________ OU > UT > TT

11-20-2007, 07:54 PM	#17
psiperformance LSS Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 876 Trader Rating: (1)	due a real cold air intake instead of the pos no tune k/n and tune package and a set of under drive pulleys with your off road you will make around 290 rwhp __________________ PSI Performance Solutions 210-655-6546 10811 nacogdoches road San Antonio TX 78217 cmr tuners and full service performance shop.

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