Need Advice from yall PRO's

EWP · 06-20-2003, 03:30 AM

Need Advice from yall PRO's
ok, here's my problem, i have a 1990 Lx coupe w/ some bolt ons.(If you can really help i'll PM the mods i have to you)
Now my question is, i want to go faster but not sure what is the better buy.
Should i put more into the motor or should i put more into the suspension? like uppers and lowers, drag shocks and struts, and Drag Springs ?
Or should i get like some new AFR 165 heads?
what would yall do?
As of now, my best time to date w/ only 2 trips w/ a total of like 6 passes is a 13.7 @ 100 mph.
Also if you have any other idea about what i could do to get better times, that would help too!

Thanks,
Elliot

JohnS · 06-20-2003, 07:59 AM

I would get the suspension taken care of first. That way once you do get to add some more power, it will handle it and you will be able to launch better. Other wise you will be catching up with the motor instead of being prepared for it.:2thumbup:

**bandit** · 06-20-2003, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnS
I would get the suspension taken care of first. That way once you do get to add some more power, it will handle it and you will be able to launch better. Other wise you will be catching up with the motor instead of being prepared for it.:2thumbup:

exactly what i was thinkin'

03BlownCobra · 06-20-2003, 11:27 AM

if you are gonna be doing some roll racing....go with the AFRs

EWP · 06-20-2003, 01:41 PM

werd, i just can't decide which route to go first

I'm more of a from a stop racer my self, so maybe a little suspension work would be good. i don't know, well see.

CHips · 06-20-2003, 02:00 PM

turbo charger.

**12second5.0** · 06-20-2003, 03:17 PM

I'd go the power adder route.There's a Paxton f/s on AAS real cheap.:2thumbup:

SilverSnake · 06-20-2003, 05:13 PM

apparently you have mods already, so some attention to the
suspension would be a good place to start. That will help your
e.t.'s now. Then decide what you want out of your motor and
collect parts and build all at once, just a thought :2thumbup:

CHips · 06-21-2003, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacGyver

your joking right no way he can afford that of he had that much, the either or about getting suspension or heads wouldnt even be a question. He would just get both and still come out cheaper.

i was joking - we all know that elliot can't afford to spend $2500-3000 on a turbo charger. i don't think that many of us could afford that

**12second5.0** · 06-21-2003, 02:52 PM

he just needs a little tuning!

:threegear

Roscoe · 06-21-2003, 03:41 PM

For Sale: TWIN TURBO KIT

Twin Turbo Kit for sale:
- Turbo Headers
- Down Pipes that connect to factory or aftermarket H or X Pipe
- Garrett T3 turbos
- Integrated wastegates
- Braided steel oil supply lines
- Rubber/nylon petroleum type oil return lines
- brass fittings to connect oil supply lines and oil sending unit to the block

Basically this is everything up to the point where the piping that would go from the turbos to the intercooler and Throttle body or carb starts (everything but the "cold side").

This kit is designed to work with all the accessories (pwr. steering, A/C, etc...) in place and there is no need to cut any of the car up anywhere.

The kit works on both EFI and carbed engines - I designed it on a motor with the big TFS Street heat Intake and it clears that!

The kit is designed for Fox Body ('79 - '93) 5.0 motors but should work on a 94-95 5.0 also but you would probably have to swap to a fox body type intake to do the "cold side" piping.

$1400.00

Roscoe · 06-21-2003, 03:42 PM

Now - the only question is "Wow, Ross, where can I score such a kit?!?!"

The answer - Paypal me some funds and I'll tell you!!!

ShawnQ · 06-21-2003, 03:44 PM

there are several guys with turbo kits, home built, with under a grand invested. I/C, turbo(s), piping, everything...

So dont say it cant be done.

But, I agree, the majority are over 2500 by a long shot.

Shawn

Roscoe · 06-21-2003, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacGyver
DFWstangs alll the time

I am talking about a new kit

and not a junkyard kit either.:whackit:

thank you drive through:o

No need to be a dickhead. That kit is the best for the money you will ever find, and Todd knows his shit.

CHips · 06-21-2003, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacGyver
2500
lol, find me that complete kit and Ill buy it

try more.... and thats just for the kit and piping, not the turbine... and dont forget tuning and the safc and avc ebc that I would run

how much would all this cost? i found a complete turbo kit for my truck that was $2600

CHips · 06-21-2003, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ShawnQ
there are several guys with turbo kits, home built, with under a grand invested. I/C, turbo(s), piping, everything...

So dont say it cant be done.

But, I agree, the majority are over 2500 by a long shot.

Shawn

i saw a couple of these home - built turbo kits, and i think that most of them probably dont do much. i remember seeing a thread where someone posted a picture of a turbocharger made out of a leaf blower. im sure its possible to make one that works, but it would be a bitch to make.

Roscoe · 06-21-2003, 04:12 PM

Well, that kit that is being sold was on an 86 coupe, stock motor, and still ran 10.40's, so I believe he is doing something right.......

CHips · 06-21-2003, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacGyver

:2thumbup: just here to help and put things in perspective... sorry If i come off harsh. But sometimes people just dive into stuff that they dont have the means to maintenance and complete

i dont think you come off as harsh at all. you seem to know a lot about this topic, while i know almost nothing about turbo, or super chargers. im just talking about what ive seen. the kit i mentioned was on the jc whitney website, and it said "complete kit", but you are probably right about checking up onstuff like that, so you dont get screwed over it.

ShawnQ · 06-21-2003, 04:37 PM

this is funny...here is what I am getting from the info you have read/wrote.

I dont know shit.
I've never messed with turbos.
and JY turbo kits are 'pieced together', non 'established', and are made for 'beater' cars...

There are several guys who are well over 800 hp with 'JY' kits...Just because you can't/wont fab the kit up yourself doesn't mean somebody else can't/wont do it...

The only difference between a PTK kit and a JY kit is the turbo. You can go to a JY and get a powerstroke turbo, and make a kit just like their kit, for 1/4 the price, and make the same power. What is wrong with that?

You are going to dog a JY kit and then post a link to feets car, and hype it up...so do you like them or dislike them?

Don't turn someone away from them just because you'd rather spend the $5k on an 'established' kit...

Shawn

EWP · 06-21-2003, 05:56 PM

jeez! alot happend while i was at work!!
so yea, some suspension stuff is what i think would be good right about now!:2thumbup:
thanks for all the info on turbos as well!lol, these guys!

PFFT!
Elliot

06-20-2003, 03:30 AM	#1
EWP Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: yawn San Antonio Posts: 1,131 Trader Rating: (0)	Need Advice from yall PRO's Need Advice from yall PRO's ok, here's my problem, i have a 1990 Lx coupe w/ some bolt ons.(If you can really help i'll PM the mods i have to you) Now my question is, i want to go faster but not sure what is the better buy. Should i put more into the motor or should i put more into the suspension? like uppers and lowers, drag shocks and struts, and Drag Springs ? Or should i get like some new AFR 165 heads? what would yall do? As of now, my best time to date w/ only 2 trips w/ a total of like 6 passes is a 13.7 @ 100 mph. Also if you have any other idea about what i could do to get better times, that would help too! Thanks, Elliot

06-20-2003, 05:13 PM	#8
SilverSnake Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tx Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0)	apparently you have mods already, so some attention to the suspension would be a good place to start. That will help your e.t.'s now. Then decide what you want out of your motor and collect parts and build all at once, just a thought :2thumbup: __________________ confused don't know if I should turn left or go straight and mash the gas Last edited by SilverSnake; 06-20-2003 at 05:18 PM.

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06-20-2003, 07:59 AM	#2
JohnS Coupe Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Leander, Tx (near Austin) Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (0)	I would get the suspension taken care of first. That way once you do get to add some more power, it will handle it and you will be able to launch better. Other wise you will be catching up with the motor instead of being prepared for it.:2thumbup:

06-20-2003, 11:27 AM	#4
03BlownCobra Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 113 Trader Rating: (0)	if you are gonna be doing some roll racing....go with the AFRs

06-20-2003, 01:41 PM	#5
EWP Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: yawn San Antonio Posts: 1,131 Trader Rating: (0)	werd, i just can't decide which route to go first I'm more of a from a stop racer my self, so maybe a little suspension work would be good. i don't know, well see.

06-20-2003, 02:00 PM	#6
CHips Elitist Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,483 Trader Rating: (1)	turbo charger.

06-20-2003, 03:17 PM	#7
12second5.0 Check ya later! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Marion,Texas Posts: 8,569 Trader Rating: (0)	I'd go the power adder route.There's a Paxton f/s on AAS real cheap.:2thumbup:

06-21-2003, 02:52 PM	#10
12second5.0 Check ya later! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Marion,Texas Posts: 8,569 Trader Rating: (0)	he just needs a little tuning! :threegear

06-21-2003, 03:41 PM	#11
Roscoe Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (0)	For Sale: TWIN TURBO KIT Twin Turbo Kit for sale: - Turbo Headers - Down Pipes that connect to factory or aftermarket H or X Pipe - Garrett T3 turbos - Integrated wastegates - Braided steel oil supply lines - Rubber/nylon petroleum type oil return lines - brass fittings to connect oil supply lines and oil sending unit to the block Basically this is everything up to the point where the piping that would go from the turbos to the intercooler and Throttle body or carb starts (everything but the "cold side"). This kit is designed to work with all the accessories (pwr. steering, A/C, etc...) in place and there is no need to cut any of the car up anywhere. The kit works on both EFI and carbed engines - I designed it on a motor with the big TFS Street heat Intake and it clears that! The kit is designed for Fox Body ('79 - '93) 5.0 motors but should work on a 94-95 5.0 also but you would probably have to swap to a fox body type intake to do the "cold side" piping. $1400.00

06-21-2003, 03:42 PM	#12
Roscoe Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (0)	Now - the only question is "Wow, Ross, where can I score such a kit?!?!" The answer - Paypal me some funds and I'll tell you!!!

06-21-2003, 03:44 PM	#13
ShawnQ Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (0)	there are several guys with turbo kits, home built, with under a grand invested. I/C, turbo(s), piping, everything... So dont say it cant be done. But, I agree, the majority are over 2500 by a long shot. Shawn

06-21-2003, 04:12 PM	#17
Roscoe Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (0)	Well, that kit that is being sold was on an 86 coupe, stock motor, and still ran 10.40's, so I believe he is doing something right.......

06-21-2003, 04:37 PM	#19
ShawnQ Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (0)	this is funny...here is what I am getting from the info you have read/wrote. I dont know shit. I've never messed with turbos. and JY turbo kits are 'pieced together', non 'established', and are made for 'beater' cars... There are several guys who are well over 800 hp with 'JY' kits...Just because you can't/wont fab the kit up yourself doesn't mean somebody else can't/wont do it... The only difference between a PTK kit and a JY kit is the turbo. You can go to a JY and get a powerstroke turbo, and make a kit just like their kit, for 1/4 the price, and make the same power. What is wrong with that? You are going to dog a JY kit and then post a link to feets car, and hype it up...so do you like them or dislike them? Don't turn someone away from them just because you'd rather spend the $5k on an 'established' kit... Shawn

06-21-2003, 05:56 PM	#20
EWP Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: yawn San Antonio Posts: 1,131 Trader Rating: (0)	jeez! alot happend while i was at work!! so yea, some suspension stuff is what i think would be good right about now!:2thumbup: thanks for all the info on turbos as well!lol, these guys! PFFT! Elliot