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Port Job???
I have an 86 GT with E6 heads and the stock intake...
I was thinking about taking the heads and intake to a machine shop and have them ported... I don't know much about porting and the measurements so I was wondering what you guys thought about this and what I should get done. Thanks in advance for the input. -JM ![]() |
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Three-hundredths of a second away from it!!!!
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Try Jerrys machine shop 936-632-0348, ask for an estimate, If to high just wait and save for some cheap gt-40s or something.
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i wouldn't waste the time porting E6 heads . I have seen some E7's that flow very good numbers for what they are and I have seen some stock intakes that flow very well too . There is/was a guy named Joe Crane down here in San Antonio that was well known for his port work to stock heads and intakes . Some of his work has been on old school setups from Murrillo to many others that got started in the early 90's with efi Mustangs .
Can it be done ? Yes . Is it worth it in todays market of used intakes and heads floating around ? Probably not . You can pick up a set of Pro Comp aluminum heads on Ebay for about $650.00 that will out flow your E6 heads by a huge amount . Add a nice aftermarket intake of similiar size to the heads and spend a few bucks on a nice custom hydraulic roller camshaft and you could very well have a setup that could out run a combo thats got a lot more cash invested in it . |
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These would be ideal for your setup . These heads are highly under rated and work well on smaller 302 based engines like yours ...... |
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whiskey tango foxtrot
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if youve got the cash and the time, you could send that intake off to tom moss. hes been able to get some really good numbers off of stock setups, specially the intakes. only drawback is that shipping to st louis is gonna suck
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whiskey tango foxtrot
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lol i never got any calls man. im sorry. but i have a new phone that im going to switch my number over to
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oh... i called last night because I was going to Jesse's to do some work.
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whiskey tango foxtrot
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ah yea i never got the call. but i do need to go out there some time soon to mess with my clutch and see if i can raise my h up a little bit cuz its really draggin on everything
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looks mean, workin' on the fast
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i have a set of e7's in my trunk... i was gonna use them on my build but got a bad ass deal on some much better heads.. get e7's man, they're everywhere.. and cheap.. i'm gonna be asking like $20 for mine..
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If you have someone port a set of stock heads don't spend much money you can get a good set of aftermarket heads for what it will probly cost to have all of the work done you will probly need done,such as guildes, opening up the seats,valve job,resurface and then the port work. I had an 86 that I raced for years that I ported the stock E6's and 86 intake, bored out the stock 86 throttle body, degreed the cam, made a set of shorty headers, off road H pipe, Flow Masters, 2.95 first gead T5 and a set of 4.10 gears. With the speed density computer and no chip just 14 degrees of timing. I would get 26 to 28 mpg at 95+ mph. I traded the car to a friend who got 29 mpg out of the car at 95 mph with 100% highway miles. It ran low 13s at 105 on street radials. If you do get a stock set of heads ported the E6 heads have the same size port,same valve size, but the combustion chamber is a high swirl design. If you have the chamber reshaped,it works very well, probly better than the E7, but it will cost you more money. The high swirl design improves the cylinder filling and burn. Basicaly makes the engine will be more efficient, it should make more power with the same amount of air/fuel. Also the 86 engines do not have any valve releafs, so if you go with any other head and a larger than stock cam you will probly need to have the pistons fly cut. The reason the 86 pistons do not have valve releafs is the valve seats are deeper in the combustion chamber, which moves them farther from the pistons. You can get a little higher compression racio because the pistons do not have the dish and the extra valve releafs of the earlier and later pistons, you would only have the valve releafs that you have cut. I would still go with an aftermarket head or possibly a GT40 or GT40P the P head is very efficent but requires headers made specificaly for the P head. It would be intresting to see what you could get out of the car on a budget with what is availible today.
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The goal is to get the car to run 10.0 on radials,with out a power adder and still be streetable. My car is an '85 sonic blue coupe with 302 bored and stroked to 364, Ported Twisted Wedge heads and a BXR intake, A9M ECM with a Tweecer, C4 with trans brake, Hoosier 275/60/15 drag radials, no power adders. |
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Back in the saddle again
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stock gt40Ps will out do your ported e7s and be cheaper
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its not worth to spend money on porting your stock stuff
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How much will a set of stock gt40Ps set me back? Are those the ones that came on the explorers?
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Yeah the Gt40Ps were off of the V8 Exploders . You can usually pick them up for around $250-$300 .
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What year explorers??? i just bought a trickflow upper and lower intake manifold... would those heads work well with that intake?
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They are on the 96-up 5.0 Explorer . As far as them being usuable with a TFS intake , yes they will fit but its probably going to be a mismatch unless you get the heads ported and run a cam that will work well with the mods .
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What heads do you recommend with that intake and stock cam. I really don't want to change my cam.
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why do you not want to change your cam? cost? tune? want stock idle?
what would I recommend? for a stock cam i would recommend 1.7s and AFR 165s got to give me a price raneg to work with though. We can make you a strong running stock cam car given the right combo.. You will need an intake from the gt40 family or a performer. There is no reason to do heads and retain the stock intake. Waste of money. More gain will be seen form doing an Intake alone than by doing heads and leaving the stock intake.
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