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Old 09-09-2008, 11:12 PM   #1
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Russia to send a heavily-armed nuclear-powered cruiser to the Caribbean

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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia said on Monday it would send a heavily-armed nuclear-powered cruiser to the Caribbean for a joint naval exercise with Venezuela, its first major maneuvers on the United States' doorstep since the Cold War.


Russian officials denied the mission was linked to a naval standoff with U.S warships in the Black Sea, but it will take place at a time of high tension between Washington and Moscow over the conflict in Georgia.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko said on Monday that the naval mission to Venezuela would include the nuclear-powered battle cruiser "Peter the Great", one of the world's largest combat warships.

Moscow's most modern destroyer, the "Admiral Chabanenko", will also steam to the Caribbean, along with other ships, including a fuel tanker, he added.

The naval exercise, to take place in November, will be backed up by an anti-submarine aircraft, based at a Venezuelan airfield, he said.

Russia says to send nuclear warship to Caribbean | Politics | Reuters


I don't know about this, kinda gets me worried. I know other nations do exercises in international waters all the time, but this is kinda close to the US.

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we exercis with them all the time, you just never hear about it. we have an exercise called talisban saber, with austr, russia, us, and another country. you just never hear about it, i wouldn't lose any sleep over it. we have an agreement, their ports are still open as far as i know, my buddy just got back from a 6 month cruise, (they hit up vlodivistok)
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:39 PM   #4
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am i worried, maybe a bit..but think about it this way...if they are closer to our borders...then that means they are further away from theirs...two or three ships is nothing i would worry about really cuz think about it...lets just say that russia did grow some balls to try shit with us.

China would jump in for us...
England always has our back and would shit all over their navy any day...
Most of europe may not run to arms but will at least "rabble" the shit outta them
Most of our military in that region of the world would respond real quick to those fuckers
Alaska houses some heavy equipment now cuz of all the tension and could make it to moscow no problem
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:27 AM   #6
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we have the strongest navy in the world. admiral mike mullen had an awesome comment that i read somewhere. found it "The Navy is first and foremost a fighting, sea-going service — always has been. The weapons and technology change. The ships, aircraft, and submarines certainly improve over time, but the job remains the same: to take the fight to the enemy so that he cannot take it to us."
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just read the chuck norris part, lmao.
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Russia just got some money in their bank account and now their flexing their muscles. Added to the fact that the US has no money in the bank, involved in two wars and the country is divided they have a lot more leeway with the rhetoric they throw out.
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Russia just got some money in their bank account and now their flexing their muscles. Added to the fact that the US has no money in the bank, involved in two wars and the country is divided they have a lot more leeway with the rhetoric they throw out.

but just think brent if someone like russia were to come at us like that the whole country would reunify real quick...differeneces or not.
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Sure. 9/11 is proof of that.

They aren't going to 'come at us' though. It will either be a proxy war or they will do the shit they did in Georgia to Ukraine. While they really want to get back to their glory cold war days, they aren't completely retarded and Nuclear War with us isn't really something they want to visit.
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Sure. 9/11 is proof of that.

They aren't going to 'come at us' though. It will either be a proxy war or they will do the shit they did in Georgia to Ukraine. While they really want to get back to their glory cold war days, they aren't completely retarded and Nuclear War with us isn't really something they want to visit.
great...Im sure the US is up for a game of chess...
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Sweeet! I'll be in the caribbean next week... don't worry guys... LSS special ops teams will take them out! Someone is gonna have to help me pack my bike though... and Jody, I'll be needing that helmet again.
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One more rare occasion I agree with Brent.

Phil, remember we've pissed alot of people in the past few years I don't know how many people would actually run to our aid with miliart efforts.

Though with the way things are heading, I think a major showdown is inevidtable, but i know my ass won't be aroudn for that.

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Sweeet! I'll be in the caribbean next week... don't worry guys... LSS special ops teams will take them out! Someone is gonna have to help me pack my bike though... and Jody, I'll be needing that helmet again.
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we may be out there this fall... we will clean up all Jon's mess he leaves behind.

but on a serious note, very scary stuff, that is one crazy country - Russia (or the leaders anyhow)
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They are on their way. With the growing tension in Georgia and in the Black Sea this could get real nasty real quick. We have one destroyer,I think, over there aiding a US coast guard cutter which has limited if any defense at all. They took that as us trying to "show them up" on a world stage. They are sending their flagship back into the black sea after only a day in port, along with others. Nato is also sending ships to the Black Sea(for humanitarian purposes) could get real ugly over there.

To top it off now they send their boss hog Peter The Great, several subs, and refueling tanker over here on our porch. Venenzuela already dislikes us so what do they have to lose. Things will escalate, how far, I dont know but hopefully not much.
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Russia is feeling left out and looking for some attention .
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definlaty somehting to keep an eye on. I dont know about intentions. Russia might have something up there sleeves. I know we interact with them very much now but still sounds fishy. Does make me think with this deal going on in Georgia.
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They have allready cancelled the few upcoming things. They are acting very suspicious
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