Sad news from detroit... :-(

[95 GTS]

Originally Posted by fallen_angel_81

Darlin' you can laugh all you want. I am quite a functional girl and could care less about leather seats and cool gadgets. I want something like that to make my legs shake when I drive it. My buddy who is on here has a 67 mustang he lets me drive on occasion, and I tell you riding in that thing is better than having a vibrator LOL. Sure makes my legs quiver.

first off, dont call me darlin unless you are a 50 year old small town diner waitress in stockings and heels.

And I can laugh all I want that you are naive enough to think that any American car has a higher quality than a german car, sans Cadillac.

We are not talking about classics, you and I both were talking about current and future production cars.

I could care less how you get your jollies.

[Stang_1973]

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

they have reduced all their costs and have for a half a decade. The only one they struggle to control is the union driven salaries for the workers. This is why american cars have a low quality/price.

Thats why audi/porche/vw can make a much much nicer car and stay profitable. They make parts where skills are not needed in countries where cost of living is so low they can pay the a good wage to live on that is a fraction of what we pay our workers to stamp the same steel. design and other specifics are done in germany, some raw stuff is done in slovakia and alot of assembly for USA is done in mexico.

your friend in the distributing industry is affected by only a few key things.
Fuel cost, consumer buying power, and the willingness and ability of the consumer to spend.

I was mid edit when you quoted my post, read up.

Yea i went back and read it, strong points. There need to be a lot more changes in the way these tycoons run their businesses. Even more than what they already have done.

Busines is business. If you doing good business, you will manage. there will be times when you in a slump but you will bounce back, if you r doing good business.

If you are at the point where you are going under and cant bounce back, its because of bad decisions. Plain and simple. For years weve seen the changes coming, and its one thing i learned, if you cant anticipate changes, you aint gonna make it.


BTW when it comes to sport cars, i think every car had its time. They can go retro all they wat but they will not recreate when muscle cars meant to the 60's and 70's.

[Stang_1973]

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

They make parts where skills are not needed in countries where cost of living is so low they can pay the a good wage to live on that is a fraction of what we pay our workers to stamp the same steel. design and other specifics are done in germany, some raw stuff is done in slovakia and alot of assembly for USA is done in mexico.

My point exactly, people in the US get paid way too much for the type of work they do. Driving up costs. People argue that "well its cause these big companies can afford to pay well". Obviously not, it doesnt work.

[fallen_angel_81]

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

first off, dont call me darlin unless you are a 50 year old small town diner waitress in stockings and heels.

And I can laugh all I want that you are naive enough to think that any American car has a higher quality than a german car, sans Cadillac.

We are not talking about classics, you and I both were talking about current and future production cars.

I could care less how you get your jollies.

Are all you always this touchy. Geez, what an @$$. We are both entitled to our opinions. And by the way when I started the conversation I WAS TALKING ABOUT CLASSICS. Everyone else brought up NEW foreign cars. So kiss my lily white Irish butt if you can't let someone have an opinion. Supposed to be a mustang fan but you are all up on foreign cars? Kinda reminds me of something we used to say......POSER!

[fallen_angel_81]

Originally Posted by Stang_1973

BTW when it comes to sport cars, i think every car had its time. They can go retro all they wat but they will not recreate when muscle cars meant to the 60's and 70's.

Thank you. I agree. I just happen to like older classic cars. That shouldn't be a crime especially on a MUSTANG website for God's sake. Like I said GEEZ, what a crybaby.

[thesource]

Between huge increases in fuel prices , cost of goods going up (especially steel) and the credit crisis , the big three have had a hell of a time in the past year or so . Now that steel prices have dropped , fuel prices have dropped and hopefully credit lines will start working again , the big three have a chance to recoup . As a share holder in both GM and Ford , I hope and pray they do not file BK . As a business owner and concerned person about the economy , I hope that they can just hold on with or without filing BK . I do not think a bail out package is the smartest choice but its probably needed just to prop them up for a few more months .

As for Toyota , they are in better shape but even they are hurting . All of the vehicle manufactors are getting killed right now along with their dealers around the country .

[Stang_1973]

Originally Posted by fallen_angel_81

Darlin' you can laugh all you want. I am quite a functional girl and could care less about leather seats and cool gadgets. I want something like that to make my legs shake when I drive it. My buddy who is on here has a 67 mustang he lets me drive on occasion, and I tell you riding in that thing is better than having a vibrator LOL. Sure makes my legs quiver.

Now thats somethin Id like to see. HAHA! I got a '73 Mustang you can borrow. Its not a big block but that can be easily remedied, HAHA! I can fit a 460 in there if youd like. HEHE! all in good fun. I like your taste in cars.

[fallen_angel_81]

Originally Posted by Stang_1973

Now thats somethin Id like to see. HAHA! I got a '73 Mustang you can borrow. Its not a big block but that can be easily remedied, HAHA! I can fit a 460 in there if youd like. HEHE! all in good fun. I like your taste in cars.

What a sweetheart. I like the 70s too.....too bad it's not a Mach 1, but if it'll make me shake all the better. And I'll only borrow it if you ride along with me, I don't like to have fun all alone

[95 GTS]

Originally Posted by fallen_angel_81

Are all you always this touchy. Geez, what an @$$. We are both entitled to our opinions. And by the way when I started the conversation I WAS TALKING ABOUT CLASSICS. Everyone else brought up NEW foreign cars. So kiss my lily white Irish butt if you can't let someone have an opinion. Supposed to be a mustang fan but you are all up on foreign cars? Kinda reminds me of something we used to say......POSER!

just an ass.

Yep, sure sounds like classic cars when you started the conversation.

Originally Posted by fallen_angel_81

True enough. At least I hope so. Most of the foreign cars have nowhere near the BEAUTY in their looks that the Big 3 have in theirs. We would all be driving little toasters then.

Darlin, I have a german car. Mustangs are good for what they are good for. If I want to build something to race I know exactly where to turn.

For comfort I chose something else. My heated seats and lack of breaking down at the worst possible time impresses my date far more than the cam lope of my lil 302. Trust me, when you have gotten to the point where nothing on the car is original, shit happens.


welcome to LSS

[fallen_angel_81]

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

just an ass.

Yep, sure sounds like classic cars when you started the conversation.


Darlin, I have a german car. Mustangs are good for what they are good for. If I want to build something to race I know exactly where to turn.

For comfort I chose something else. My heated seats and lack of breaking down at the worst possible time impresses my date far more than the cam lope of my lil 302. Trust me, when you have gotten to the point where nothing on the car is original, shit happens.


welcome to LSS

Yeah some kind of welcome.

[Stang_1973]

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

For comfort I chose something else. My heated seats and lack of breaking down at the worst possible time impresses my date far more than the cam lope of my lil 302. Trust me, when you have gotten to the point where nothing on the car is original, shit happens.


welcome to LSS

So true, Thank God i never had problems on a date when the '73 was my DD.
Lets just say the '73 is a relationship in and of itself, a love/hate realtionship. HAHA!

Now the F250 is the one thats sees the most action, it aint as quick or sporty as the stang, but its pretty impressive. Not to mentiaon all the cab room comes in handy, hehe....

[95 GTS]

I would love a blacked out edition harley 4x4 f350. Diesel guzzlin sex machine that I can pull houses down with.











and boats.

[fallen_angel_81]

Originally Posted by Stang_1973

So true, Thank God i never had problems on a date when the '73 was my DD.
Lets just say the '73 is a relationship in and of itself, a love/hate realtionship. HAHA!

Now the F250 is the one thats sees the most action, it aint as quick or sporty as the stang, but its pretty impressive. Not to mentiaon all the cab room comes in handy, hehe....

I am partial to those too. Got a diesel in it?

[95 GTS]

Originally Posted by fallen_angel_81

Yeah some kind of welcome.

How do you like your FJ? It might make for a good small boat puller for me in a couple of years.

[Lifted78Chevy]

So its all comes down to foreign companies have produced a better more economical product......what was ford and GM doing while the other companies such as audi, mazda, vw, toyota, bmw, mazda, kia, acura, nissan...etc..........so there product was built to handle a economic crisis like the one that is occuring.......why didn't they go small? i don't get it........you see what everyone else is saleing and doing a decent job of it in the product they produced....hard to believe these companies were the biggest is the game and know there asking for gov't hand outs.

[Stang_1973]

Originally Posted by fallen_angel_81

I am partial to those too. Got a diesel in it?

Heck yeah! check out the sig......

Tuned/modded dieel

[fallen_angel_81]

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

How do you like your FJ? It might make for a good small boat puller for me in a couple of years.

TRUCE? I love it. It will climb anything, I took it to New Mexico to go hunting and it is definitely a rock crawling machine. It will pull a small boat, it has 270 horsepower. 20 mile per gallon. I think you would like it.

[fallen_angel_81]

Originally Posted by Stang_1973

Heck yeah! check out the sig......

Tuned/modded dieel

Mmmmmm talk dirty to me baby LOL.

[thesource]

Originally Posted by Lifted78Chevy

So its all comes down to foreign companies have produced a better more economical product......what was ford and GM doing while the other companies such as audi, mazda, vw, toyota, bmw, mazda, kia, acura, nissan...etc..........so there product was built to handle a economic crisis like the one that is occuring.......why didn't they go small? i don't get it........you see what everyone else is saleing and doing a decent job of it in the product they produced....hard to believe these companies were the biggest is the game and know there asking for gov't hand outs.

A lot of the reason they did not go small was because there is more profit building bigger more expensive vehicles . Until the fuel prices went through the roof , SUV and truck sales were a huge part of their business . Now with fuel prices breaking the back of the American economy (which has come down a lot but the damage has been done and will take time to repair itself) , the big three were not able to change things on a dime like some of the smaller companies were . The other big thing is unions . They play a huge role in the American auto industry . While they have provide some protection and voice for the worker , it also creates a huge burden on the company to provide things other companies do not have to provide . Companies such as Kia and others produced over seas do not have to huge over heads that GM - Ford - Dodge have .

[Lifted78Chevy]

gotcha mike.