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Old 05-18-2008, 10:54 AM   #21
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ok , thanks for the advice
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:22 PM   #22
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I'd look at the TFS stage two or three cams. You may need to have the pistons fly cut with the stage two... definitely with the stage three. Stick with 1.6 roller rockers and get an Intake to compliment it all. Edelbrock and TrickFlow have some nice intakes for the 5.0 motors.

You will also want to consider upgrading the MAF (75-80mm) and injectors (24 lb) along with a 255 LPH fuel pump.

It will all work together... but you need to be sure to balance it all or you will not get the desired gain or output.

I think the long tubes can wait as you will lose some bottom end torque with them. I would get them later though when you finish your top end.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:26 AM   #23
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I'd look at the TFS stage two or three cams. You may need to have the pistons fly cut with the stage two... definitely with the stage three. Stick with 1.6 roller rockers and get an Intake to compliment it all. Edelbrock and TrickFlow have some nice intakes for the 5.0 motors.

You will also want to consider upgrading the MAF (75-80mm) and injectors (24 lb) along with a 255 LPH fuel pump.

It will all work together... but you need to be sure to balance it all or you will not get the desired gain or output.

I think the long tubes can wait as you will lose some bottom end torque with them. I would get them later though when you finish your top end.
HE just needs a cam under .500 lift. and he will be fine and safe for the piston to valve clearance. Piston fly cutting requires more money and finding someone or some place to do it correctly. And 1 5/8" Longtubes there is no loss of torque. My car ran good when I had an E-cam, BBK Long tubes 1 5/8", X-pipe with flows w turndowns, 3:55 gears, 65 mm TB, 75 mm MAF, 19lb injectors and 9" conical K/N filter. And you could tell a big difference. All this can be done at a reasonable price. IT just depends on his budget.
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:21 AM   #24
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I agree, stick with 1.6 rockers.
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:23 AM   #25
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HE just needs a cam under .500 lift. and he will be fine and safe for the piston to valve clearance. Piston fly cutting requires more money and finding someone or some place to do it correctly. And 1 5/8" Longtubes there is no loss of torque. My car ran good when I had an E-cam, BBK Long tubes 1 5/8", X-pipe with flows w turndowns, 3:55 gears, 65 mm TB, 75 mm MAF, 19lb injectors and 9" conical K/N filter. And you could tell a big difference. All this can be done at a reasonable price. IT just depends on his budget.
With stock pistons I run the e-cam, w/ 1.7 rockers, that put's me at .529/.529, no clearance issues, im sure it's a little tighter than some people would recommend, but runs fine. A long 'duration' is what can create a clearance problem as well, should be checked/degreed with every cam, because you never know.
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:08 PM   #26
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comp xe276 blower cam

AFr 165s with upgraded springs

Holley systemax with an accufab 75mm TB

There I just built your 330whp combination, send 5 dollars to my paypal account
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comp xe276 blower cam

AFr 165s with upgraded springs

Holley systemax with an accufab 75mm TB

There I just built your 330whp combination, send 5 dollars to my paypal account
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:13 PM   #28
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With stock pistons I run the e-cam, w/ 1.7 rockers, that put's me at .529/.529, no clearance issues, im sure it's a little tighter than some people would recommend, but runs fine. A long 'duration' is what can create a clearance problem as well, should be checked/degreed with every cam, because you never know.
I am also currently running an E cam with 1.7 roller rockers... It runs nicely... but I would prefer just a bit more punch out of the car.

I'd check into a tfs stage 2 cam or something comparable with 1.6's and verify clearances with the manufacturer to make sure it wouldn't require fly cutting the pistons... you would probably want to stay away from the cams that require flycutting the pistons unless you end up doing a complete rebuild on your motor.
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:13 AM   #29
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LOL yea your pretty close with those parts to 330....but is that at the fly or to the ground........me, i'd go 165afr, b-cam, 1/7's, cam will have 510 lift pistons be fine, trick flow intake, 70mm throttle body, 75 mm mass air, 24 injectors, bbk long tubes, x pipe, flows dumped, msd ignition, pro-m power pipe, k&n filter and i promise you will make 335 hp to the ground.....then later on put a blower on it and your'll have 400 plus hp...am i missing anything???? o yea put a better cam in if u want make power over 5500 rpms....lol.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:44 AM   #30
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I swear I am going to go off the deep end if you guys dont stop recommending piece of sh*t outdated cams with no matching correlation to his head and intake combo.

STAY AWAY FROM HUNDRED DOLLAR CAMS. E B F X TFS1 TFS2 old school crowers

you will be far far far far faster buy spending 300 on a cam that is relevant and skimping out on say a 200 dollar TB or something else

Unless you are going with a proven combo that one of these cams is perfect for (rare), dont use it.

you can make 300+ RWHP with AFRs and a retarded stock cam BTW. It will probably out run your average 310hp AFR e303 or tfs stage 1 combo, especially if you fear the gear and have say a 3.73.

Save your dough and put it where it counts.
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