starter relay problems

lateniteman · 12-30-2006, 08:07 PM

update to the problem described below... i attached them to the positive side of the relay. now i have lights, but still absolutely nothing when i turn the key.

suggestions?

my 14 yr old son saved up his money and bought a 68 stang to restore. the positive side of the starter relay broke off, so we bought a new relay. i wasnt there when he put the new relay on. i told him to take one wire at a time off of the old one, and put that wire on the new one so he wouldnt get anything crossed.

well now nothing works... no lights, no starter, nothing...

there are 2 wires with loop connections (one single wire and one set of wires) that are not connected. my son said he "doesnt think" they were connected to the old relay. he "thinks" they were just there. but when i look at them, the center part is still shiny, telling me they prob were connected.

so now i'm trying to figure out where they go. we bought a repair manuel, but the wiring diagram in it is too vague to be able to tell.

i have attached a photo of it.

can anybody help?

thanks much

Latenite

keg65 · 12-30-2006, 09:11 PM

those loops go on the battery side of the solenoid, they are the main power to everything in the car.
only the wire to the starter goes on the other side.
Normally the solenoid is sitting the other way, it is upside down in pic, that shouldn't affect function though.

**bighoss88lx** · 12-30-2006, 09:16 PM

It looks like the relay is mounted upside down. Flip it over and hook up ALL of the wires to it.

lateniteman · 12-30-2006, 09:16 PM

ok i attached the wires and now have lights, but still nothing when i turn the key.

checking with a test light... on the positive post of the starter relay, all of the wires have power without the key on.

then, testing the two wires that plug onto the front of the relay. with the key turned, the one towards the front of the car has power. the other one (the one circled in the new pic i have attached) barely barely has power.

suggestions?

**bighoss88lx** · 12-30-2006, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg65

those loops go on the battery side of the solenoid, they are the main power to everything in the car.
only the wire to the starter goes on the other side.
Normally the solenoid is sitting the other way, it is upside down in pic, that shouldn't affect function though.

It does affect function. Power can only go one way thru it to energize it. I found that out recently.

keg65 · 12-30-2006, 09:23 PM

swap the two wires that push onto the bolts around

keg65 · 12-30-2006, 09:24 PM

I wasn't sure about the the direction, but if you say so, you are the mechanic

lateniteman · 12-30-2006, 09:29 PM

yup, that did it.

never leave a boy to do a man's job.

thanks for you help.

lateniteman

keg65 · 12-30-2006, 09:31 PM

its all about the learning experience
I got my 1965 mustang at 14 also. I learned alot fixing it up.
The advantage about the old cars, a little miss wiring just means it won't work,
unlike a new car, mess up and you can fry the computer

**bighoss88lx** · 12-30-2006, 09:32 PM

NP man.

Welcome to LSS.

12-30-2006, 08:07 PM	#1
lateniteman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: waco Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0)	starter relay problems update to the problem described below... i attached them to the positive side of the relay. now i have lights, but still absolutely nothing when i turn the key. suggestions? my 14 yr old son saved up his money and bought a 68 stang to restore. the positive side of the starter relay broke off, so we bought a new relay. i wasnt there when he put the new relay on. i told him to take one wire at a time off of the old one, and put that wire on the new one so he wouldnt get anything crossed. well now nothing works... no lights, no starter, nothing... there are 2 wires with loop connections (one single wire and one set of wires) that are not connected. my son said he "doesnt think" they were connected to the old relay. he "thinks" they were just there. but when i look at them, the center part is still shiny, telling me they prob were connected. so now i'm trying to figure out where they go. we bought a repair manuel, but the wiring diagram in it is too vague to be able to tell. i have attached a photo of it. can anybody help? thanks much Latenite Attached Thumbnails

12-30-2006, 09:11 PM	#2
keg65 Change always makes Sense (or Cents) Join Date: May 2005 Location: NE San Antonio Posts: 1,232 Trader Rating: (0)	those loops go on the battery side of the solenoid, they are the main power to everything in the car. only the wire to the starter goes on the other side. Normally the solenoid is sitting the other way, it is upside down in pic, that shouldn't affect function though. __________________ 1 of 472 Year 2005 Mustang GT, Black, Convertible with Black Top, Automatic Transmission, Dark Charcoal/Red Interior. Last edited by keg65; 12-30-2006 at 09:14 PM.

12-30-2006, 09:16 PM	#3
bighoss88lx Killing is my Business...And Business is Good! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Elmendorf, Tejas Posts: 5,953 Trader Rating: (1)	It looks like the relay is mounted upside down. Flip it over and hook up ALL of the wires to it. __________________ 1988 Mustang LX

12-30-2006, 09:16 PM	#4
lateniteman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: waco Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0)	ok i attached the wires and now have lights, but still nothing when i turn the key. checking with a test light... on the positive post of the starter relay, all of the wires have power without the key on. then, testing the two wires that plug onto the front of the relay. with the key turned, the one towards the front of the car has power. the other one (the one circled in the new pic i have attached) barely barely has power. suggestions? Attached Thumbnails

12-30-2006, 09:23 PM	#6
keg65 Change always makes Sense (or Cents) Join Date: May 2005 Location: NE San Antonio Posts: 1,232 Trader Rating: (0)	swap the two wires that push onto the bolts around __________________ 1 of 472 Year 2005 Mustang GT, Black, Convertible with Black Top, Automatic Transmission, Dark Charcoal/Red Interior.

12-30-2006, 09:24 PM	#7
keg65 Change always makes Sense (or Cents) Join Date: May 2005 Location: NE San Antonio Posts: 1,232 Trader Rating: (0)	I wasn't sure about the the direction, but if you say so, you are the mechanic __________________ 1 of 472 Year 2005 Mustang GT, Black, Convertible with Black Top, Automatic Transmission, Dark Charcoal/Red Interior.

12-30-2006, 09:29 PM	#8
lateniteman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: waco Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0)	yup, that did it. never leave a boy to do a man's job. thanks for you help. lateniteman

12-30-2006, 09:31 PM	#9
keg65 Change always makes Sense (or Cents) Join Date: May 2005 Location: NE San Antonio Posts: 1,232 Trader Rating: (0)	its all about the learning experience I got my 1965 mustang at 14 also. I learned alot fixing it up. The advantage about the old cars, a little miss wiring just means it won't work, unlike a new car, mess up and you can fry the computer __________________ 1 of 472 Year 2005 Mustang GT, Black, Convertible with Black Top, Automatic Transmission, Dark Charcoal/Red Interior.

12-30-2006, 09:32 PM	#10
bighoss88lx Killing is my Business...And Business is Good! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Elmendorf, Tejas Posts: 5,953 Trader Rating: (1)	NP man. Welcome to LSS. __________________ 1988 Mustang LX

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