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Old 05-13-2008, 12:31 PM   #1
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Supercharger vs. NOS

i want to add more power to my stang. who doesnt....but should i go with a supercharger (and if so which one?) or should i go with a NOS wet-kit....
my car is the 92 gt in my sig. i ocasionally drive it on the street so i still want to keep it legal and somewhat resonable for my weekend car.
either way should i change my carb???? b/c all ive been hearing is that my elderbrock 650 cfm carb is too small and eldebrock sucks....???
all help is apriciated as im a noob when it comes to stuff like this
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depends who you talk to when you talk about carbs. although 650 cfm might be to small for your setup, i would try 700cfm. but you might have to change it anyways if you get a s/c which I think would be better. power on demand and it won't have to be refilled.
Idk which s/c you should go with though, but I'm sure there's plenty of guys on here that could give you some ideas.
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:09 PM   #3
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i was kinda leaning to the s/c side....but what s/c/carb setup should i go with??
and about how much hp/tq do they add?
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easy, put a 174 roots style blower single carb blower on the car...make great low end power and is a very good and dependable blower...Holley Performance Small Block Ford – 174 Series Products
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anyways if you get a s/c which I think would be better. power on demand and it won't have to be refilled.

The guy i sold my v6 mustang to put a t/c and NOS on it. man if you dont like the prices at the pump wait til you have to go refill that NOS bottle LMAO.....I say S/C > NOS
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In the long run the spray would end up being way more than a supercharger. Although initial costs aren't too bad. It's a toss up I'd rather have a sc myself.
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I think it all depends on how much money you have to invest up front. The NOS will be cheaper than the SC setup for a carb...anyhow the ones I have seen are. Either way you will be burning extra fuel so that is a non-issue. The bottles take up cargo room, if it is a hatch car then you need to vent the relief valve on the bottle out the bottom of the floor board, etc. Setting up a carb based blower and keeping a tune on it can be a pain versus a mass air injected setup. All in all I think it would be go with what you know.

Why not just buy a 331 kit and bump the compression? Same cost and it is always there. You can find a used roller block and basically build the short block. It would take a weekend to swap all the stuff over from the 306 and then you could sell the 306 short block.

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I have a turboed 306,easier on parts than either of
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:31 PM   #9
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Just like Jeff (I think it was him) said "Bottles are for babies, real men get blown"


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if bottles are for babies, why does everyone else cry about em?
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The 650 is not too small. It will not hurt power with the NO2 or the supercharger. Which Edlebrock carb do you have? They have sold both copies of Cater and Quadajet carbs. The carter design is not a bad design but fewer people understand how to tune it, than Holley carbs. The The most common and easiest power adder for a carb set up is NO2, but you can install a centrifical supercharger. Vortec, Paxton and Pro Charger all have kits for a carb set up. It is also possible to install a turbo on a carb set up. You could also build a stroker like previously suggested, but it will use more fuel when cruzing than a smaller engine with a power adder. The power adders can be harder on engine parts. How fast are you wanting to go? It is very possible to go 12s with a mild cam, desent heads and intake, no power adder and a 306. It just depends on your preferrences and what you want to do.
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Hmm, yea i seen a mechanical secondary holley 650 run a foxbody to 12.0@ 115 with a tfs/mild cam 347, around 2900 lb car.
with some spray i say go 700 carb.
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With NO2 you are spraying in the extra oxigen so you do not need so a larger carb or TB. As for how fast you can go with a 650, low 10's with out a power adder is very possible. There use to be a class that you were only allowed a 650, if you did not run low 10's you did not last very long. The cirlce track guys build around 650 hp with carbs smaller that 650 cfm.
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