[SCobraVT99]

type of spring makes no different, when you lower a car, the alignment will be off anyway

[thatdavidkid]

BUT he has sportlines according to his sig... that's a HUGE difference... lowering 1.5 inches versus close to 3.... my customer will be fine w/o an alignment for a while.



edit... and just to verify, it's ultimately his choice... i'm merely running the shop where the work is being done at, and he asked me to help him research.. but since everyone is too busy talking about eachother's shit rather than helping me answer the question at hand... it doesn't even matter anymore...

[SCobraVT99]

i think you are taking things a little our of proportion. All you have told is that he has a fox body, not what he wnats to get out of the car, either drag or street...more information could get you alot better answers i bet

[Bigdrumma22]

Originally Posted by thatdavidkid

ok so far ONE person has answered what i asked... you said the struts are the same HEIGHT.... therfore, i will tell him to wait and save for good ones. also, i dont see why c-springs need an alignment that bad, bigdrumma, he is NOT installing c/c plates, and you didn't say what kind of springs you got.. there are big differences here... different products act differently in set ups... for all i know you got sport lines or something....

Springs are in my sig, I have Eibach Sportlines. I know you said he is not installing C/C plates, but I recommend them, that's all. Either way get an alignment as soon as possible. BUT if you try to get it aligned and they can't get it in specs... it's just gonna be an I told you so from somebody... hopefully not me. Just my opinion, that's all.

[SCobraVT99]

people reccomend things because they have had experiences, or know people who have had experiences that stemmed from not taking said avice. Dont buy caster camber plates, but if you dont, expect your alignment to be off. Dont lower your car without replacing the factory shocks and struts with new ones, unless you plan on the ride being shitty..shall I continue?

[Bigdrumma22]

Originally Posted by thatdavidkid

BUT he has sportlines according to his sig... that's a HUGE difference... lowering 1.5 inches versus close to 3.... my customer will be fine w/o an alignment for a while.



edit... and just to verify, it's ultimately his choice... i'm merely running the shop where the work is being done at, and he asked me to help him research.. but since everyone is too busy talking about eachother's shit rather than helping me answer the question at hand... it doesn't even matter anymore...

Sportlines aren't a 3" drop, look em' up. It's like 1.8" all around. And for your first question, if he wants the cheapest route, just buy a cheap $20-40 monroe at autozone or where ever and be done with it. Better would be to do both fronts. Best would be to upgrade all. That's what we've been getting at. Good to do the job once! Get where we're coming from??

[96greengt]

Originally Posted by thatdavidkid

BUT he has sportlines according to his sig... that's a HUGE difference... lowering 1.5 inches versus close to 3.... my customer will be fine w/o an alignment for a while.



edit... and just to verify, it's ultimately his choice... i'm merely running the shop where the work is being done at, and he asked me to help him research.. but since everyone is too busy talking about eachother's shit rather than helping me answer the question at hand... it doesn't even matter anymore...

Wow...... 3 inch drop on a Mustang will be like having the tire rub the under wheel well area, good luck with that. But David, I don't see why sometimes you get too involved in areas that seem to be over your head (with all due respect), why try to half ass a job and then you ultimately take the hit for it later. Do it right, if he wants to rig it, drop the job and move on. I know it is your time and all, but there is some pride you need to have.

[thatdavidkid]

jody, i'm no where near over my head on this, i realise i'm no professional, but i've grown leaps and bounds in that direction since i've last talked to you... i realise it would be the RIGHT THING to have him buy c/c's and everything and i did tell him that from the get go, the car is an 03 gt and the main purpose of this thread is to determine if there is a strut that he can run that's not as pricey as tokicos or something like that where he wont have issues with them blowing out really soon... however, i am gonna take some advice.. i'm gonna shop around for him for the best prices on what he NEEDS and tell him to come see me when he's got the money. i'm already saving him tons of money on the install over everyone else, so he should be ok on this.

[SCobraVT99]

i told you already that for the money, KYB's are not bad. They come in a package of shocks and struts for $250 bux, how much cheaper can you get? He is ignorant to do the install with cheap parts, and then when they break, he has to do NEW parts, AND pay the labor all over again. Why not do it right the first time?

[96greengt]

Just buy the house brand of the parts store or even get Monroe, still better then stock, if you think that they will "blow out soon" cuz it is lowered, you obviously are not learning enough yet.

[Bigdrumma22]

Originally Posted by 96greengt

Just buy the house brand of the parts store or even get Monroe

I already said that... GOSH! HAHA...

[T5killa]

Originally Posted by thatdavidkid

jody, i'm no where near over my head on this, i realise i'm no professional, but i've grown leaps and bounds in that direction since i've last talked to you... i realise it would be the RIGHT THING to have him buy c/c's and everything and i did tell him that from the get go, the car is an 03 gt and the main purpose of this thread is to determine if there is a strut that he can run that's not as pricey as tokicos or something like that where he wont have issues with them blowing out really soon... however, i am gonna take some advice.. i'm gonna shop around for him for the best prices on what he NEEDS and tell him to come see me when he's got the money. i'm already saving him tons of money on the install over everyone else, so he should be ok on this.

tell him kyb fox struts are probably his best bet.

[95 GTS]

Originally Posted by Bigdrumma22

Sportlines aren't a 3" drop, look em' up. It's like 1.8" all around. And for your first question, if he wants the cheapest route, just buy a cheap $20-40 monroe at autozone or where ever and be done with it. Better would be to do both fronts. Best would be to upgrade all. That's what we've been getting at. Good to do the job once! Get where we're coming from??

you dont understand. Its not the fact that the stock shocks are worn out and will need to be replaced. Its stock style shocks with that range of compression that wont work over time.

your stock stuff is better and will hold up longer than some cheap monroes.


when you lower the car, it is compressed too low and the piston doesnt have as far to travel. It is more cpomplex than that, but many lowering springs will blow out your stock struts

[95 GTS]

Originally Posted by 96greengt

Just buy the house brand of the parts store or even get Monroe, still better then stock, if you think that they will "blow out soon" cuz it is lowered, you obviously are not learning enough yet.

this is not true. if you put an H&R SS or sprotline, you can blow even the stock bilsteins.


Maybe you guys drive on flat surfaces liek a grandma all day, I dont know....

[T5killa]

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

this is not true. if you put an H&R SS or sprotline, you can blow even the stock bilsteins.


Maybe you guys drive on flat surfaces liek a grandma all day, I dont know....

we'll were all assuming the drop is for a daily driver which would be for mostly cosmetic purposes and assuming he drives normally and not too aggressive but the information wasn't disclosed.

[SCobraVT99]

Originally Posted by T5killa

we'll were all assuming the drop is for a daily driver which would be for mostly cosmetic purposes and assuming he drives normally and not too aggressive but the information wasn't disclosed.

exactly....how are you going to bash our suggesstions when you give us hardly any information?

[Bigdrumma22]

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

you dont understand. Its not the fact that the stock shocks are worn out and will need to be replaced. Its stock style shocks with that range of compression that wont work over time.

your stock stuff is better and will hold up longer than some cheap monroes.


when you lower the car, it is compressed too low and the piston doesnt have as far to travel. It is more cpomplex than that, but many lowering springs will blow out your stock struts

Just the fact that he's not going with such a radical drop is even more reason to use stock replacement shocks. I've got the KYB shocks for my model year car, not the fox style, and it's fine. I also had stock struts before that with no problems. So why would he need fox style with less drop???

[95 GTS]

who the hell said he would need fox style struts? can you not read?

I said specifically what I meant. If you go with any good spring, you should use any aftermarket struts. Not some autozone piece of poo.

if you go with an HR SS or stiffer, or a sportline, you are going to be out of the efficientcy of the stock strut. It will last.... for a while. It will also ride rougher than if you had aftermarket struts that can handle our heavy blingtastic deep dish 27 pound ford wheels and our drop.

I dont autocross or road race, but the H&Rs were enough to blow a brand new stock replacement strut. I have seen it on several cars, Hell, there is even an article on the web of a spring install on a Mach 1 with its better than stock GT struts. Guess what, it blew them!

what did I bash? The fact that Jodi said a lowered car would not neccessitate a good strut?

Sorry, but i actually get passionate about things when someone gives misinformation over the internet that will cost people undue troubles. Not every body can afford to do things right the second time.

[SCobraVT99]

the bashing comment was directed towards thatdavidkid

[Bigdrumma22]

Originally Posted by 95 GTS

who the hell said he would need fox style struts? can you not read?

Not every body can afford to do things right the second time.

Can you not read??? He asked about using fox struts in the very first post.

And second...that's exactly our point. Do it right the first time, so you don't have to do it a second time. No one here has said to do it twice, everyone said do it right the first time.