[mustangmelish]

the best way to reach them is to show up there... but thats not really an option for me right now haha

[rudestang]

what type of problems are you having? i might be interested in the heads and intake if they wont work out for you.

Larry

[mustangmelish]

ive just been having an idle problem and then a spring snapped on me (but i got new ones) and now a valve may be bent because of the spring that snapped. basically ive just been having a lot of bad luck.

[T5killa]

well they really can't be held responsible for parts that break, and the aftermath the broken part causes and idle problems kinda come with the territory of putting non factory parts on your car. I'm sure they would've worked with you on the idle part.

[mustangmelish]

they have been working with me on the idle part. but they havent fixed it after 2 months. and the spring breaking probably wasnt their fault and im not worrying about it because its still under warranty.

i talked to lethal and they should have done a leakdown test on my car today (was workin all day so i couldnt talk to them) and i already talked to danny about taking the heads and intakes off and he said we could probably work something out so ill see when i talk to him on tuesday.

[dpbluestang]

Just curious, were all the parts brand new from SSM? Where did you get the cam...regrind or billet...new or used? If the parts were new, the spring should not have broke, but if there was coil bind, then the parts were mismatched. What rockers are you running? If all was fine except for the idle, I'd say it was just tuning. I've done quite a bit of tuning to just get mine to idle decent, but it could still use some help. What MAF are you running?

[mustangmelish]

parts were brand new. the heads and intakes were from SSMS, the cam,pushrods, springs, and retainers were brand new from comp cams. i called ssms when getting the heads/intakes (i got them from a guy who wrecked his car before he could even install them) and asked them if everything would work together and he said yes. im using stock rockers. my cam is a regrind.

i think it was just the tuning too, or i blew a gasket during tuning (i kept getting random codes saying that theres a vacuum leak) but they checked like 3 times and said there wasnt a leak. so i dont know exactly what it was.

and im running my stock MAF

[96greengt]

Originally Posted by mustangmelish

parts were brand new. the heads and intakes were from SSMS, the cam,pushrods, springs, and retainers were brand new from comp cams. i called ssms when getting the heads/intakes (i got them from a guy who wrecked his car before he could even install them) and asked them if everything would work together and he said yes. im using stock rockers. my cam is a regrind.

i think it was just the tuning too, or i blew a gasket during tuning (i kept getting random codes saying that theres a vacuum leak) but they checked like 3 times and said there wasnt a leak. so i dont know exactly what it was.

and im running my stock MAF

I have been following this, and now I will chime in on it. First off, (and I am NOT a V-6 guy) but I rebuilt these motors, fixed and worked on them. A few things I see wrong and a few things I know. Idle issues with Ford and aftermarket is an ongoing issue. Tuning over and over can get it close, but never correct, hell, mine still has issues. You bought new parts off a guy who was selling them cuz he wrecked his car, you obviously think he would say NO THEY WON'T WORK FOR YOU or HELL YES, THEY'LL WORK, NOW PAY ME MONEY??

I think that later is the better answer, he wrecked the car, needed the money, sold you the parts, end of story. Did you do your own research before you bought the parts or was it just an impulse buy cuz he had the parts and you wanted to go faster??

I have the same problem now at my shop, I installed "used" exhaust that was bent, tweaked, and even the existing catback was installed wrong from the get go, it has wear marks in the axle tubes to prove it, now that I touched it last, a list of problems have been blamed on me. As a person who works on these cars for a living, what do you do? Step up and see if it was your fault or just leave it be and piss off a customer and risk internet ruin.

What I am trying to say, and has been mentioned previously, bringing in used or even your own parts without 100% knowledge of it is "all works as a combo" is your responsibility, a risk you take. Having a shop take your car, suggest what you need, you agree, they build, it messes up, it is the shops responsibility then.

It's like a super engine or transmission builder builds you parts, you take it to the track and blow it, who are you gonna blame........ the builder right??

It's a give give situation, you wanna play, you gotta pay. There is never really a true warranty in performance parts or modding, it is a gamble every time.

[4.6stanger]

Originally Posted by 96greengt

I have been following this, and now I will chime in on it. First off, (and I am NOT a V-6 guy) but I rebuilt these motors, fixed and worked on them. A few things I see wrong and a few things I know. Idle issues with Ford and aftermarket is an ongoing issue. Tuning over and over can get it close, but never correct, hell, mine still has issues. You bought new parts off a guy who was selling them cuz he wrecked his car, you obviously think he would say NO THEY WON'T WORK FOR YOU or HELL YES, THEY'LL WORK, NOW PAY ME MONEY??

I think that later is the better answer, he wrecked the car, needed the money, sold you the parts, end of story. Did you do your own research before you bought the parts or was it just an impulse buy cuz he had the parts and you wanted to go faster??

I have the same problem now at my shop, I installed "used" exhaust that was bent, tweaked, and even the existing catback was installed wrong from the get go, it has wear marks in the axle tubes to prove it, now that I touched it last, a list of problems have been blamed on me. As a person who works on these cars for a living, what do you do? Step up and see if it was your fault or just leave it be and piss off a customer and risk internet ruin.

What I am trying to say, and has been mentioned previously, bringing in used or even your own parts without 100% knowledge of it is "all works as a combo" is your responsibility, a risk you take. Having a shop take your car, suggest what you need, you agree, they build, it messes up, it is the shops responsibility then.

It's like a super engine or transmission builder builds you parts, you take it to the track and blow it, who are you gonna blame........ the builder right??

It's a give give situation, you wanna play, you gotta pay. There is never really a true warranty in performance parts or modding, it is a gamble every time.

Has a damn good point.

[cmschlatt]

Originally Posted by mustangmelish

parts were brand new. the heads and intakes were from SSMS, the cam,pushrods, springs, and retainers were brand new from comp cams. i called ssms when getting the heads/intakes (i got them from a guy who wrecked his car before he could even install them) and asked them if everything would work together and he said yes. im using stock rockers. my cam is a regrind.

i think it was just the tuning too, or i blew a gasket during tuning (i kept getting random codes saying that theres a vacuum leak) but they checked like 3 times and said there wasnt a leak. so i dont know exactly what it was.

and im running my stock MAF

this may be ssms error jody.

[86sleeper]

sounds like a part mismatch to me. sounds like the error would be with install or purchase of cam and valve train.

[VCS_SSSTANG]

Originally Posted by mustangmelish

parts were brand new. the heads and intakes were from SSMS, the cam,pushrods, springs, and retainers were brand new from comp cams. i called ssms when getting the heads/intakes (i got them from a guy who wrecked his car before he could even install them) and asked them if everything would work together and he said yes. im using stock rockers. my cam is a regrind.

i think it was just the tuning too, or i blew a gasket during tuning (i kept getting random codes saying that theres a vacuum leak) but they checked like 3 times and said there wasnt a leak. so i dont know exactly what it was.

and im running my stock MAF

You know something I just thought about...

1.) SSMS doesn't recommend regrinds for .56 lift
and
2.) SSMS also recomends you have 1.7 stud mount rockers with a .56 lift cam

[mustangmelish]

Originally Posted by VCS_SSSTANG

You know something I just thought about...

1.) SSMS doesn't recommend regrinds for .56 lift
and
2.) SSMS also recomends you have 1.7 stud mount rockers with a .56 lift cam

well i called ssms and asked the guy TWICE. i told him specs on my cam, pushrods, springs, and told him that i was going to have stock rockers. i told him everything and asked him twice. both times he said yes.

oh and my cam is not .56 its .55 sorry, that was my fault. i WAS going to get a .56 but then it changed to a .55 and i had .56 in my sig originally (when i first was going to order the cam)

[lethal zo6]

First of all Greg, you brought all of the parts to us for installation. The parts were used and I recommended to you not to install them!! You said "you know what, just go ahead and do it." Since you are the customer that's what we did!!! Last week your valve spring broke, which has nothing to do with our install, and I replaced the valve spring personally at no charge, to be nice, and set an appointment for you to come back in two weeks because we are booked for the next two weeks. I don't appreciate that you are saying its our work that caused the issue. Like I told you, I would not have put those parts on my personal vehicle but that's what you wanted and you signed off on the work order. We will be open on Tuesday at 9 and you can pick your car up. Thanks, Lethal

I don't think that you realize the problems that you start up by running your mouth on the internet when you don't know what your talking about. As far as the phones go...we only have one line and we get about 30 to 50 calls an hour.......leave a message and the call will be returned.

[Lethal Performance]

I am not going to read everything on here. I am going to state the facts to the best of my knowledge.

You brought us your own parts. Heads,cam,intake and TB. Without even asking advice on the parts you where buying you took it upon yourself to buy them. Lethal Performance did not supply ANY insite to the mods done to your car. YOU made that descision based upon your knowledge. We did advise you not to do used parts. We bid a little high on the job because it was an out of the ordinary job and you agreed to pay for the labor done. Now heres where we get into the tuning. No one and I dont care if it is the best tuner in the nation is going to be able to park a tune in one day with a cammed car. It takes time and customers dont want to leave there cars there for days at a time in order to get drivablity. They accept it and come back for updates and descriptions. Then your spring broke on the heads that your purchased from an outside source that I dont even know. So I would like to know how this is our fault? You came to the shop the other day and didnt have anything negative to say and now I come on here and read all of this. I can understand if you came to me and said can you spec me a nice combo and we did all the R&D and it ended up like that. Then yes it would be a mistake and I would gladly look into it further. History is a lie if you dont know both side of a story. If you feel further action into this matter are needed take the time to call the shop. Or better yet Danny cell.

[lethal zo6]

Hey Jones and everyone else that doesnt know the whole story shut your fuckin mouth until you get the facts straight!

[96greengt]

Hope my name is not suggested in there... I never said anything but the way the cookie crumbles in this industry, and I'll back my facts through experience..

[Lethal Performance]

Originally Posted by 96greengt

Hope my name is not suggested in there... I never said anything but the way the cookie crumbles in this industry, and I'll back my facts through experience..

No not you cupcake!

[lethal zo6]

No... but it gets old...you bend over backwards to try and help these people out and they end up skrewing you. But no...no reference to you.

[96greengt]

Originally Posted by Lethal Performance

No not you cupcake!

Suck up

I was just making sure!! lol

And yes, I know what you mean 100%, been there, done that all my life and still today. Used is used, bottom line, but if you actually read my post above, it says quite a bit there.