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Old 03-24-2008, 09:12 PM   #101
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Whatchu you know on them 3Vs Willis ??
I know I can't afford dem.
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You should have asked him how much he had in it then double that number because it will probably blow up after it leaves his shop .
Not sure how much he had in it, I think the car was from Prewitt(sp?) Racing or something like that. Sounded bada$$ for a sixxer.
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Whatchu you know on them 3Vs Willis ??
I know with only an SCT tuner set on 87 octane and a MAC short CAI my wife can run 13.30's through an automatic on her bone stock street tires .
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Not sure how much he had in it, I think the car was from Prewitt(sp?) Racing or something like that. Sounded bada$$ for a sixxer.
With a nice set up, good cam, and exhaust, you can get them to sound good...





















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Exactly . Once you crack the throttle it will scream V6'er to the top of its tiny little lungs .
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I know with only an SCT tuner set on 87 octane and a MAC short CAI my wife can run 13.30's through an automatic on her bone stock street tires .
And seat time ???
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It sounded like it was mostly stock exhaust, with a very mild cam, but with a great sounding turbo when spooled.
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And seat time ???
Seat time ??? She did that on the 2nd pass she ever made in the car if thats what you were asking about ?
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Seat time ??? She did that on the 2nd pass she ever made in the car if thats what you were asking about ?
Interesting..... So when do we got to put long tubes, pulleys, cai, and gears then?
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Interesting..... So when do we got to put long tubes, pulleys, cai, and gears then?
Yeah I don't think thats going to happen anytime soon . Its already got a CAI from MAC and it came with 3.31 gears from the factory . IF and when I do another upgrade , I might install a higher stall convertor and supercharge it .
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Ok i tried to stay out of this one but all this v6<v8 crap has really made the shit hit the fan.

1st off i would like to say that Lethal is a good shop that stands behind their work and if you are dissatisfied with it they will take time out of their schedule to make sure things are fixed. Next the whole v6<v8 bashing is just plain annoying. Yes we know that out car is slower than the v8 version, but the stock blocks and cranks are a lot stronger than v8's. In fact, the factory 3.8/4.2 block has yet to be split from the abundance of power; and the 4.2L crank, a $200 piece, can support 600+hp. the 4.6 block is good until what mid 500?
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All bullshit aside , modding a V6 really isn't worth it in the long run . Sure there are V6 cars running around that can put a stomping on a STOCK V8 car but those cars are few and far between not to mention the money they have spent to do so .
A stock v8 isn't much of a challenge compared to most of the F/I v6's, a simple supercharger or turbo and you will see yourself arround the 300hp mark, a bit more than the stock GT which will put down arround 240-250hp stock. With that said it does not take much to beat a stock GT. And the money, ohhh that is what makes the world spin these days. It will take less money to get more power out of a v6 than a GT, i have proved it before over on mustangforums, go look if you care.
Greg, if you need any help/parts i have a 02 motor in my garrage, let me know if you need anything.

Just had to get all that off my chest.
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Yeah I love how this thread went from the tuning shops fault to "oh you shouldn't mod a v6".... Took my car to Strictly after 900people told me it wasn't gonna last longer than a week after we left the shop, they told me they never turned a v6, and here I am 3 and 1/2 months later and my car hasn't had one issue since I left houston.


Oh, and the heads greg had weren't anywhere close to "cheap parts"....
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i'm not trying to start any crap. But whats up with this? Just because we <6er's> either arent alowed to get a GT or insurace will be to high or what ever, we cant mod our 6 to just make it better, faster, nicer, etc...?
if you do a little research you will relized that v6 insurance is just as high at gt insurance trust me i have had both a v6 and a gt. My insurance on the GT was lower than the v6, and i know this is because of it being a newer car. But i did get quotes on 04 gts and it was only like 15 more a month than the v6
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All bullshit aside , modding a V6 really isn't worth it in the long run . Sure there are V6 cars running around that can put a stomping on a STOCK V8 car but those cars are few and far between not to mention the money they have spent to do so .

This thread is a perfect example of what NOT to do with your V6 Mustang. These cars like their bastard bigger SN95 brothers do not take well to cam swaps and a person must learn to live with certain drivability issues when doing a cam swap even with a tune on it . If you want to make power with your V6 powered car , you need to add a power adder like a super charger or turbo and leave the camshaft alone in the car .
Theirs also a "few" running around that can put a stopming on several modded v8s
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this thread is becoming more worthless than when it started. V6's peeps are being whiney bitches, and it really has nothing to do with the purpose of this thread.
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Ok i tried to stay out of this one but all this v6<v8 crap has really made the shit hit the fan.

1st off i would like to say that Lethal is a good shop that stands behind their work and if you are dissatisfied with it they will take time out of their schedule to make sure things are fixed. Next the whole v6<v8 bashing is just plain annoying. Yes we know that out car is slower than the v8 version, but the stock blocks and cranks are a lot stronger than v8's. In fact, the factory 3.8/4.2 block has yet to be split from the abundance of power; and the 4.2L crank, a $200 piece, can support 600+hp. the 4.6 block is good until what mid 500?

A stock v8 isn't much of a challenge compared to most of the F/I v6's, a simple supercharger or turbo and you will see yourself arround the 300hp mark, a bit more than the stock GT which will put down arround 240-250hp stock. With that said it does not take much to beat a stock GT. And the money, ohhh that is what makes the world spin these days. It will take less money to get more power out of a v6 than a GT, i have proved it before over on mustangforums, go look if you care.
Greg, if you need any help/parts i have a 02 motor in my garrage, let me know if you need anything.

Just had to get all that off my chest.
thanks matt. do you by any chance have a stock cam/pushrods? i dont think i ever got mine back and id like to put that back in too.
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Then maybe the V6 gurus on this board should start their own shop and specialize in making V6 car haul ass ....... I'm guessing you wouldn't be in business long enough to pay your first electric bill on the place .
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A stock v8 isn't much of a challenge compared to most of the F/I v6's, a simple supercharger or turbo and you will see yourself arround the 300hp mark, a bit more than the stock GT which will put down arround 240-250hp stock. With that said it does not take much to beat a stock GT.
"a simple supercharger or turbo" does not equate to "not taking much".... to me, not taking much is a few simple bolt ons like CAI and catback. a forced induction is nowhere near a simple or cheap way to beat a GT. by the time you spent the $ for a blower and install, you could have had a GT. and that blows the sad story of "insurance is cheaper/GT was too expensive, etc..."

i have nothing against 6ers. hell, ive owned one. i agree with all your other points, but dont think the above holds water.
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When we bought my wifes 07 Gt , our insurance actually dropped about $35.00 a month over a V6 Explorer Sport Trac she had . Ironically the price of the payment was about $35.00 more a month so it evened out almost exactly .
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Then maybe the V6 gurus on this board should start their own shop and specialize in making V6 car haul ass ....... I'm guessing you wouldn't be in business long enough to pay your first electric bill on the place .
Their are a few places that already do that, none of them are here in texas however. SuperSixMotorsports [where greg's heads originally came from] RPM-mustangs [where greg's cam came from] and VMP tuning in Florida [he can tune anything] but he's noted for tunin v6's

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"a simple supercharger or turbo" does not equate to "not taking much".... to me, not taking much is a few simple bolt ons like CAI and catback. a forced induction is nowhere near a simple or cheap way to beat a GT. by the time you spent the $ for a blower and install, you could have had a GT. and that blows the sad story of "insurance is cheaper/GT was too expensive, etc..."

i have nothing against 6ers. hell, ive owned one. i agree with all your other points, but dont think the above holds water.
MSRP on new v6 < MSRP on new v8,
V6 + supercharger > stock GT for <= the price

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