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Old 03-25-2008, 11:59 AM   #141
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I like to keep my comparisons fair...

98-02 = ta / camaro

And I'm not a closet Fbody lover, I'm a general car lover.... However I did talk a friend of mine out of buying a 99gt and into buying a 98 z28 camaro about 2years ago . . .
How can you live with your self? And yea s197 GT > F Bodies

I havent even heard the excuses the f bodies use against those match ups. They talk shit about GTs then cry with Cobras.
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lol this thread has gone over like 4 different subjects....where is amanda??????

Also you wanna talk about price ls1>sn95 NE in the price department... just like you said with the v6 you can take a supercharger to the gt and beat the ls1
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:11 PM   #143
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lol this thread has gone over like 4 different subjects....where is amanda??????

Also you wanna talk about price ls1>sn95 NE in the price department... just like you said with the v6 you can take a supercharger to the gt and beat the ls1
Then the ls1 guys will cry even though they have a 5.7 and we have 4.6, some how thats fair, but us with a the supercharger is cheating... LOL. We dont bitch...
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lol this thread has gone over like 4 different subjects....where is amanda??????

Also you wanna talk about price ls1>sn95 NE in the price department... just like you said with the v6 you can take a supercharger to the gt and beat the ls1

Hmm...
2002 chevorlet camaro original MSRP: 22,830$ [z28 coupe]
2002 ford mustang original MSRP: 23,220$ [GT deluxe premium]
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Then the ls1 guys will cry even though they have a 5.7 and we have 4.6, some how thats fair, but us with a the supercharger is cheating... LOL. We dont bitch...
Everybody bitches, their are pages of forum argument mustang guys and ls1 guys you know that
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:17 PM   #146
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a simple forged stroker blower nitrous setup will make an sn95 v6 fast
Yeah that about sums it up right there .

V6 + forged stroker short block + stock ported over priced heads + over priced billet camshaft/rockers/pushrods + blower + nitrous + over priced tune = high 10 second/low 11 second V6 Mustang thats not even close to being street driven .

Or you could just buy a used 03-04 Cobra and slap a Whipple on it . Better resale value , gets way more leg and has a 6 spd in it .

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Yeah that about sums it up right there .

V6 + forged stroker short block + stock ported over priced heads + over priced billet camshaft/rockers/pushrods + blower + nitrous + over priced tune = high 10 second/low 11 second V6 Mustang .
sounds like a crap load of money
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Yeah that about sums it up right there .

V6 + forged stroker short block + stock ported over priced heads + over priced billet camshaft/rockers/pushrods + blower + nitrous + over priced tune = high 10 second/low 11 second V6 Mustang thats not even close to being street driven .
Or you could just buy a forged short block, and ported heads, and run 11s with a turbo setup?
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Free install, its called DIY!!!!!



Back to the still spending more money on the v8[+cost of the car], I mean why are we arguing either way? Why waste money on modding any mustang we should all drive LS1's either way....
can't argue that point.
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Then the ls1 guys will cry even though they have a 5.7 and we have 4.6, some how thats fair, but us with a the supercharger is cheating... LOL. We dont bitch...
Its not fair but thats stupid ass Fords problem not GM's . Ford chose to go with that retarded ass 4.6 mod crap and still leave it a measly 4.6 (281 cubic) sized engine . The least they could do is shit can the V6 motor , install the 4.6 into the base model cars and give the Gt and/or Cobras a bigger engine such as a 350+ cubic inch version of the 32V mod motor . I think a 5.4 Nav engine with an aluminum block would have been pretty cool in the Cobras myself .

I am a true blue Ford guy but GM got it right on the LSX engine .
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Or you could just buy a forged short block, and ported heads, and run 11s with a turbo setup?
Or yank that out and install a pump gas stroked Windsor and run low 11's / high 10's without breaking a sweat on the motor all day long . I bet building the W stroker would come out about the same maybe a little cheaper.
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Its not fair but thats stupid ass Fords problem not GM's . Ford chose to go with that retarded ass 4.6 mod crap and still leave it a measly 4.6 (281 cubic) sized engine . The least they could do is shit can the V6 motor , install the 4.6 into the base model cars and give the Gt and/or Cobras a bigger engine such as a 350+ cubic inch version of the 32V mod motor . I think a 5.4 Nav engine with an aluminum block would have been pretty cool in the Cobras myself .

I am a true blue Ford guy but GM got it right on the LSX engine .
That would have been nice...
Then ford would have to overcome its problem of putting a 5.4 in the sn95 and not making it weigh 3800lbs[gt500]
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Or yank that out and install a pump gas stroked Windsor and run low 11's / high 10's without breaking a sweat on the motor all day long . I bet building the W stroker would come out about the same maybe a little cheaper.
Theirs a guy on the v6 forums who tried to go that way...
He ended up going with an m112 and built v6 instead.
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That would have been nice...
Then ford would have to overcome its problem of putting a 5.4 in the sn95 and not making it weigh 3800lbs[gt500]
Once again that would be their problem . The F boats are about 3800 lbs or so and run bad ass with an LS1 in them .
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Theirs a guy on the v6 forums who tried to go that way...
He ended up going with an m112 and built v6 instead.
I have a 94 Gt street car with a 393W and a 6 spd I am building right now . Its no harder to do than anything else and will run circles around any super charged or turbocharged Mustang V6 "street car" .

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Once again that would be their problem . The F boats are about 3800 lbs or so and run bad ass with an LS1 in them .
My fboat weighed in at 3400 almost full of gas without me. Just FYI. They are heavy but they're not all THAT heavy.

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How can you live with your self? And yea s197 GT > F Bodies
If you're talking weight maybe

Having both an LS1 car and a mod motor car, I'd give the power gains and ease of modding to the Camaro any day of the week. I only got a Mustang because the Fbody wasn't comfortable to me with how short I am.

As for V6 vs V8 vs V12 vs I3 vs W16 vs what the hell else you're using to move your 2 or 4 or 6 wheels around (I think I covered everything), who cares what you use so long as you make power with it?? I'm only going with a 4V because I got the motor cheap, after the cost of the build etc. it would have been cheaper and faster with an LS1. But whatever, that's life, when life is cars.
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if you do a little research you will relized that v6 insurance is just as high at gt insurance trust me i have had both a v6 and a gt. My insurance on the GT was lower than the v6, and i know this is because of it being a newer car. But i did get quotes on 04 gts and it was only like 15 more a month than the v6
OOOOOOOO trust me i did my research for over 3months while i was unable to walk (surgery) just waiting to be able to get my maunual car. I went to my insurance agent at least 3 times, with a huge list of cars. The 6 still came out cheaper. thats why i pay i think $400 every 6 months, for full coverage.
And pluss trust me i wish i could have gotten a v8 just like prob every other v6 but a lot of us are just unable to. like me i still am in high school and wasnt allowed to get a v8 just because of my parents.
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And pluss trust me i wish i could have gotten a v8 just like prob every other v6 but a lot of us are just unable to. like me i still am in high school and wasnt allowed to get a v8 just because of my parents.
But given the choice ..... you would have went with a V8 . Why is that ?
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I think the whole point here is, if you have a V6, get rid of it, or dont bitch when ur mods trash your car, and if you dont have a mustang, dont buy a V6
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