what brand of gears for a gear swap?

cdunc24 · 08-02-2007, 04:40 PM

I am looking into purchasing new 3.73 gears for my car ( '97 5.0 swap) and was wondering who had good and bad experiences with whatr brands of gears? any advice or stories woiuld help as well as do I need a kit w/ shims etc. or just the crush sleeve, pinion nut, pinion bearing and speedometer gear? any advice appreciated.

i dont have a pic, and i am not at home (in iraq), is it safe to say that I have a 8.8 rearend? the car a originally '97 V-6. someone has told me before and i thought for sure it was 8.8 but what is the easy way to tell, if there is one?
thanks again

Stang13 · 08-02-2007, 06:28 PM

I have heard of guys getting gear whine with Motive, personally I would go FRPP!

**thesource** · 08-02-2007, 08:39 PM

Ford gears are the best to go with period .............

Stang6uy · 08-03-2007, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stang13

I have heard of guys getting gear whine with Motive, personally I would go FRPP!

I've heard the same....or pro 5.0

timpryor · 08-03-2007, 12:31 AM

FRRP or nothing

Agent Jones · 08-03-2007, 01:17 PM

who is frrp

Stang13 · 08-03-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Jones

who is frrp

Fords Rowdy Racing Parts....

cdunc24 · 08-03-2007, 05:29 PM

Okay, so Ford Racing it is. where is a good place to get them? about the best price i have seen is at Latemodel Restoration in Waco. Also, i know i need crush sleeve, pinion seal (i think those 2 are included) but what else? should i buy that big $100 install kit? i dont want a whole bunch of extra shit left over, seems since the gears are Ford I shouldn'y need to do much shimming and stuff huh?
thanks for the help and advice

**psiperformance** · 08-03-2007, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stang13

I have heard of guys getting gear whine with Motive, personally I would go FRPP!

Motive MAKES the gears for FRPP

Stang13 · 08-04-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by psiperformance

Motive MAKES the gears for FRPP

I did say that I had "heard" that Dean, but thanks for clearing things up...

tx_zstang · 08-07-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cdunc24

Okay, so Ford Racing it is. where is a good place to get them? about the best price i have seen is at Latemodel Restoration in Waco. Also, i know i need crush sleeve, pinion seal (i think those 2 are included) but what else? should i buy that big $100 install kit? i dont want a whole bunch of extra shit left over, seems since the gears are Ford I shouldn'y need to do much shimming and stuff huh?
thanks for the help and advice

Ford racing gears; check various online sources and compare shipping vs. local sales tax.
Install kits, depends if you're doing it or someone else. You can get a good kit for $80, or just specific bearings locally like at autozone. I'd get a kit though, as it'll have good bearings and shims and seals and bolts, etc., which you may end up needing and you should replace with new ones anyway. Usually though if you install FRPP (Ford Racing) gears, you're existing shims will be fine; you'll want to make sure your pinion shim is especially correct!

**psiperformance** · 08-07-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Stang13

I did say that I had "heard" that Dean, but thanks for clearing things up...

i know simply letting people know so they can make a decision ..

Stang13 · 08-07-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by psiperformance

i know simply letting people know so they can make a decision ..

Good info! I find it interesting that "people say" that the Motive gears have a tendency to whine, but not the FRPP! Of course you have to consider the installer!

**psiperformance** · 08-07-2007, 09:53 AM

well you must remember that frrp gears are made to fords standard wich may or may not be a higher tolerance then the base motive line

Stang13 · 08-07-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by psiperformance

well you must remember that frrp gears are made to fords standard wich may or may not be a higher tolerance then the base motive line

So, as I had said go with FRPP!

**thesource** · 08-07-2007, 07:00 PM

Motive gear might cut some Ford gears but they are not the same , not even close to it . I've set up a shit load of Ford Racing gears and have not had any issues . Using Motive gears is about 50/50 and its just not worth the risk any more . The last two sets I did were a Ford 9 3/4 and a GM 14 bolt and both came back within 3 months or less ........ I sent the gears back to Nogalitos and they sent them back to Motive . Motive told me I set them up wrong . Funny thing is , I ended up using used OEM gears to replace both sets of Motive gears and neither came back nor made any noise at all . Motive brand gears are crap .........plain and simple .

**psiperformance** · 08-09-2007, 08:08 PM

regardless all the gears that come in a frpp package are made by motive not just some.

Motive has the contract from ford and has had it for about 2 years now.

as i said .. the reason that the frpp gears dont have issues is frpp has higher tolerance and they match ring and pinion sets as a matched set

where motive does not.

86sleeper · 08-09-2007, 09:09 PM

why don't you just buy my used frpp 3.73's?

Poisoned Pony · 08-10-2007, 03:39 AM

haven't had a single problem with FRPP gears yet and I've had 3 cars which had them

Shane361 · 08-24-2007, 08:22 AM

90% of aftermarket installers(if you dont yourself) will warranty FRPP-Shane

08-02-2007, 04:40 PM	#1
cdunc24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Harker Heights Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0)	what brand of gears for a gear swap? I am looking into purchasing new 3.73 gears for my car ( '97 5.0 swap) and was wondering who had good and bad experiences with whatr brands of gears? any advice or stories woiuld help as well as do I need a kit w/ shims etc. or just the crush sleeve, pinion nut, pinion bearing and speedometer gear? any advice appreciated. i dont have a pic, and i am not at home (in iraq), is it safe to say that I have a 8.8 rearend? the car a originally '97 V-6. someone has told me before and i thought for sure it was 8.8 but what is the easy way to tell, if there is one? thanks again __________________ '97 5.0, YES 5.0!!!

08-02-2007, 08:39 PM	#3
thesource LSS Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: in a hole building transmissions Posts: 2,626 Trader Rating: (11)	Ford gears are the best to go with period ............. __________________ Texas Motorsports Myspace Texas Motorsports Photobucket

08-03-2007, 01:17 PM	#6
Agent Jones In the TOP 15 on LSS!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio Posts: 5,923 Trader Rating: (1)	who is frrp __________________ Join the Lonestarstangs Social Group for Mustangs http://www.lonestarstangs.com/forum/group.php?groupid=1 ________

08-03-2007, 05:29 PM	#8
cdunc24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Harker Heights Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0)	Okay, so Ford Racing it is. where is a good place to get them? about the best price i have seen is at Latemodel Restoration in Waco. Also, i know i need crush sleeve, pinion seal (i think those 2 are included) but what else? should i buy that big $100 install kit? i dont want a whole bunch of extra shit left over, seems since the gears are Ford I shouldn'y need to do much shimming and stuff huh? thanks for the help and advice __________________ '97 5.0, YES 5.0!!!

08-07-2007, 09:53 AM	#14
psiperformance LSS Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 732 Trader Rating: (1)	well you must remember that frrp gears are made to fords standard wich may or may not be a higher tolerance then the base motive line __________________ PSI Performance Solutions 210-655-6546 10811 nacogdoches road San Antonio TX 78217 cmr tuners and full service performance shop.

08-02-2007, 06:28 PM	#2
Stang13 BOOST ADDICT! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Antonio Posts: 664 Trader Rating: (0)	I have heard of guys getting gear whine with Motive, personally I would go FRPP!

08-07-2007, 07:00 PM	#16
thesource LSS Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: in a hole building transmissions Posts: 2,626 Trader Rating: (11)	Motive gear might cut some Ford gears but they are not the same , not even close to it . I've set up a shit load of Ford Racing gears and have not had any issues . Using Motive gears is about 50/50 and its just not worth the risk any more . The last two sets I did were a Ford 9 3/4 and a GM 14 bolt and both came back within 3 months or less ........ I sent the gears back to Nogalitos and they sent them back to Motive . Motive told me I set them up wrong . Funny thing is , I ended up using used OEM gears to replace both sets of Motive gears and neither came back nor made any noise at all . Motive brand gears are crap .........plain and simple . __________________ Texas Motorsports Myspace Texas Motorsports Photobucket Last edited by thesource; 08-07-2007 at 07:02 PM.

08-09-2007, 08:08 PM	#17
psiperformance LSS Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 732 Trader Rating: (1)	regardless all the gears that come in a frpp package are made by motive not just some. Motive has the contract from ford and has had it for about 2 years now. as i said .. the reason that the frpp gears dont have issues is frpp has higher tolerance and they match ring and pinion sets as a matched set where motive does not. __________________ PSI Performance Solutions 210-655-6546 10811 nacogdoches road San Antonio TX 78217 cmr tuners and full service performance shop.

08-09-2007, 09:09 PM	#18
86sleeper Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: deer park Posts: 2,425 Trader Rating: (0)	why don't you just buy my used frpp 3.73's? __________________ MIKE '86 GT:high 12's Sold '01 GT:low 11's for sale

08-10-2007, 03:39 AM	#19
Poisoned Pony Kiss my shiney butt Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 989 Trader Rating: (0)	haven't had a single problem with FRPP gears yet and I've had 3 cars which had them __________________ 2000 GT black, 5-speed, wingless coupe mods: alittle bit of this, alittle bit of that

08-24-2007, 08:22 AM	#20
Shane361 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, TX Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0)	90% of aftermarket installers(if you dont yourself) will warranty FRPP-Shane

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