[mustangmelish]

ok well i was planning on buying myself a streetbike but my parents just said thats basically out of the question.

BUT, they said that turbo/supercharger could be ok. so i was wondering what all i should get/need for a f/i set up.

currently i have a 2004 v6 (stick) with flowmaster catted h and super 40s and a CAI (thats all performance wise). i would buy the turbo/supercharger and run a low boost (4-5psi) at first just because i still have stock internals and stock rearend (7.5). im going to get a T-Lok but idk if that will be before or after the turbo. just depends whe i find a good deal on one. should i upgrade my whole rearend or should i just keep it a 7.5 for now since ill just be running a low boost. i think im going to get an SCT XCAL2 and run a mail order tune for a little while (with the low boost) until i can get a good dyno tune (when i can afford it). what psi will i need to start replacing the internals on my engine? what else should i/do i need to get? im not looking to push anything over 300rwhp for now. once i want to go above that im definitely going to upgrade my rear end and get some stronger internals. but what else should i get besides the full turbo/supercharger kit (btw ill be buying a used one)

the purchase wont happen till at least the end of the year but i want to know what i need to do to my car to be ready for the setup!

[thatdavidkid]

first of all, "psi" means NOTHING when talking about how much you can safely run, it's not about the pressure, it's about the quantity of air.. in order to correctly guage what kind of boost you can run we'd have to know what kind of turbo/s/c you're looking at... someone could tell you something like "yea you can safely run 6 psi on tha tmotor" but if theyr'e assuming a t-3 turbo, and you have a freakin' t-76 you'll blow your motor sky high... as far as supporting mods, if you go s/c, get headers.. if turbo, they'll be in the kit... and for the rear end, i say get an 8.8 it'll be much better in the long run, because if you spend th emoney on a t-lock for your 7.5, you could have already bought a used 8.8......

[mustangmelish]

alright well i would probably look at a vortech or a procharger as far as superchargers go but as far as turbos go i have no idea. i dont know too much about them but i read on 3.8mustang.com that they get more power for a v6 (ive always liked turbos better so thats probably the route im going to take) ive basically just been watchin the forsale section to see what kind of turbos/superchargers are around

ill definitely keep my eye out for an 8.8 but you dont see many very often.

[thatdavidkid]

........ i guarantee i can find you one.... worst case scenario youll have to do a 5 lug swap on it..

[mustangmelish]

alright well let me know! and i think ive made up my mind that i want to go with a turbo setup. which ones would yall recommend and why?

[bandit]

Originally Posted by thatdavidkid

........ i guarantee i can find you one.... worst case scenario youll have to do a 5 lug swap on it..

used 8.8s in good shape can be very hard to come by... especially hard to find them for the proper year.

if you are talking about getting one from an old fox-body and converting it to five lug... sure it will work, but it will look pretty goofy on a 99-04. the fox body axle is narrow compared to the 99-04. even the 94-98 axle is not as wide as the 99-04, but not as narrow as the foxes.

[mustangmelish]

ok well an 8.8 is not needed fornow since i wont run a high boost/lots of power until i get a good 8.8 if i dont come across one before i buy the turbo.

who makes a good turbo kit? i know tma did but thats not happening anymore. am i SOL on buying a kit (so i have to buy everything seperately) or does someone else make a good kit for the v6?


or if anyone has a turbo v6 and are thinking about selling the turbo in the future, maybe we can work something out to where i buy it at the end of the year (so i already have one lined up anddont have to worry about finding one) just an idea!

[2k4mk1]

Originally Posted by bandit

used 8.8s in good shape can be very hard to come by... especially hard to find them for the proper year.

if you are talking about getting one from an old fox-body and converting it to five lug... sure it will work, but it will look pretty goofy on a 99-04. the fox body axle is narrow compared to the 99-04. even the 94-98 axle is not as wide as the 99-04, but not as narrow as the foxes.

Yup. They will all fit but he REALLY needs one from a 99+ car to keep the track the proper width

[mustangmelish]

ive heard that tma was the only one creating a kit for the v6? is that true?

[mustangmelish]

also. i was thinking. should i maybe try and supercharge and then some of the powerpaks from sss? would that be better/cheaper than getting a turbo. from what ive seen superchargers are cheaper than turbos, superchargers are easier to find used etc. eventually ill be looking for at least 350rwhp (not right away though) so what would be my best bet?

going turbo and working from there?

buying a used supercharger (or possibly new.. whatever i can find) and then buying cams, heads, ported intakes, etc.

[bandit]

Originally Posted by mustangmelish

ive heard that tma was the only one creating a kit for the v6? is that true?

yes, Andy from TMA has decided to stop producing his kits... but he is not the only one who knows how to make a turbo kit.

Give Kirk at Pro Modular Performance (one of our great sponsors ) a call. He has built several turbo kits for Mustangs and is currently working on one for a 99-04 V6 that is pumping out more than 400rwhp.

[mustangmelish]

Originally Posted by bandit

yes, Andy from TMA has decided to stop producing his kits... but he is not the only one who knows how to make a turbo kit.

Give Kirk at Pro Modular Performance (one of our great sponsors ) a call. He has built several turbo kits for Mustangs and is currently working on one for a 99-04 V6 that is pumping out more than 400rwhp.

well i just talked to some guys over on 3.8mustang.com and they recommended i go with the procharger kit. i like the numbers from the 9-11psi kit and it would be alot cheaper than a turbo because im pretty sure i could find it used. im thinking of going with that then later on upgrading intake/cams/etc. now i just gotta raise all the money. which means workin more at the good ole' heb! haha (i already have 650 though) im hoping to find a kit by christmas and then get it installed by my birthday (end of jan) the only thing im worried about is clearance issues with my 03-04 cobra hood. do yall think it will be fine?

[bandit]

nice choice. I also decided to go with a Procharger. I will be getting mine installed and tuned at Texas Hot Rods (shameless plug for another one of our great sponsors. )

I think that if you were to compare Stage 1 of the Procharger vs. a similar priced turbo kit, the turbo kit would put out a little more power... But I believe the Procharger kit still has plenty of potential given the some complimentary mods.

We should run sometime after both of our stangs are procharged.

Originally Posted by mustangmelish

the only thing im worried about is clearance issues with my 03-04 cobra hood. do yall think it will be fine?

yes, it should fit without any issues. the 3.8 has plenty of room to fit a s/c.

[mustangmelish]

BUT i can probably find a procharger used so therefore cheaper. (if i were to hold out for a new one i probably wouldnt be able to afford it all till march) and im sure the procharger will do enough good for me with the 9-11 psi kit. or even the 7psi kit. because i can always upgrade.

and ya we will definitely run both of them. but i do want to get an 8.8 rearend before i run mine.

good thing it will fit because i love that hood! haha

[cmschlatt]

i wish my dad would let me go FI

[mustangmelish]

well its not final yet but its most likely a yes. and if not then im going to get the stage 2+ powerpak from sss and then get a sweet dyno tune

[cmschlatt]

i went to a car meet last night, and this transam rolls up that sounds like god himself during roid rage. anyways, found out he only had exhaust and cam in it. i was scared what heads and all that jazz would sound like

[txlen]

lol...jus cause it makes alot of noise...don't mean it's fast !!! lol...

[mustangmelish]

but it can still soud nice

[l_shizzle_l]

A t-lock will not last long with a supercharger, i've read how someone broke his at 220 ish hp. A detroit locker will handle it though. 7.5 rear is plenty strong enough for any street legal car with the right locker.